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Germany warns that Russia is rearming faster than expected, replacing war losses and stockpiling tanks, missiles, and drones.

Putin has redirected Russia’s economy to fuel its military, aided by supplies from Iran and North Korea.

While there’s no clear evidence of plans to attack NATO, Russia is creating the conditions for it.

On the Ukraine front, Russian forces are advancing in south Donetsk, nearing strategic town Pokrovsk, a key supply hub and coal mining center.

Analysts suggest Putin aims to seize land before potential peace talks.

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[–] GreenKnight23 2 points 17 minutes ago

surprise surprise! just after his little orange butt plug was sworn in too!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Simultaneously so weak and incompetent that they can't take a village of 80 year olds but so scary that they'll go to war with like a fifth of the planet.

How does the Umberto Eco thing go again?

[–] HappySkullsplitter 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Russia has faced a tiny fraction of NATO's combined military strength and has failed to produce any meaningful results. Attacking NATO would be suicidal

[–] eronth 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeahhhh, but what if someone in charge of the US sides with them instead of against them.

[–] GreenKnight23 2 points 14 minutes ago

they must have not got the memo.

just to catch everyone up to speed.

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[–] rustyfish 13 points 7 hours ago

As my GM once said, right before I TPK’d my whole group: “You can certainly try.”

[–] PugJesus 95 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They're betting on their fascist puppet in the US tearing apart NATO, so they don't have to worry about such things when they start eyeing the Baltic states.

[–] ChicoSuave 26 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And what, lose another 3 years and a third of the country's young to losing the fight for Estonia? Russia is absolutely incapable of successfully invading anything. They couldn't even stay in Syria when a bunch of untrained militia said they might show up later. Russia is weak.

[–] marcos 27 points 9 hours ago

As long as there is an war going on for the rest of Putin's life, I don't think he cares about the any of those problems.

All he cares about is that if there isn't a war going on, Russians will start to look at what their own government does.

[–] ThePrimitive 0 points 3 hours ago
[–] FlyingSquid 50 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, but even with the U.S. out of NATO, Russia would get their ass kicked. Putin must know that.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

All depends on if NATO as a whole isn't just a bluff. Are the UK, Germany and France, the three remaining major economies after the US leaves, actually going to go to war with Russia over Lithuania (no offense at all toward Lithuanians), for example? That's what he's testing, and that's why he wants the US out.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

NATO is required to come to the defence of any member nation if it is attacked.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

On paper, yes. Will they, though?

[–] Madison420 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes.

I'm not sure if people know the history of trilateral defense agreements.

Iirc it was the French and English who put their war on hold to fight the Spanish specifically because of a weird defense pact.

[–] Carrolade 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually not true.

Article Five states that an attack on one becomes an attack on all. This wording is very specific, and they wrote it with this wording intentionally, to get people to be willing to agree to join.

It does not require counterattacks or declarations of war, merely that you consider an attack on a member an attack on you.

How do people respond to different sorts of attacks? How can they theoretically respond if they so choose? These are the kinds of games being played in Putin's head.

[–] Cypher 2 points 3 hours ago

Article 5

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

As far as mutual defence treaties go Article 5 is worded very strongly and any nation failing to provide assistance to a member nation would find itself a pariah.

The chances that an article 5 event involving Russia doesn’t trigger full scale war are slim to none.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Not if the US gives them troops and arms.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

I think the plan is to be ready for WWIII, when China, Russia, Iran, and… haha…. North Korea, team up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago

lmao, russians can stockpile rocks and have their propaganda call it best weapon ever.

[–] nexguy 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It takes Russia weeks/months to take a tiny village at the cost of thousands of soldiers. They can't attack NATO.

I mean they can... but it would go as expected.

[–] Catma 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Until the US starts giving them munitions because we have to fight the deep state/globalists that infect Europe.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

They're all Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Kinda seems like Russia is getting fucked up pretty badly already and they haven't even taken one country. Seems doubtful they would have much luck against an alliance.

[–] Tujio 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If the US leaves that alliance and then starts surreptitiously sending drone parts to Russia, it'll get dicey.

If the AfD forms a coalition government with the normal conservatives and Germany decides to turn inwards and keep Deutsche money für die Deutscher, it'll get dicey.

If Macron finally completes his heel turn and appoints Marine le Pen to interior secretary...

If Italy keeps going the way they've been going...

If the Finnish right decides that joining NATO was a mistake that let too many minorities in...

If the rest of Africa goes along with the Sahel nations and starts funneling their resources into the Russian war machine...

If Modhi lets Russia open more factories in India...

If China decides that they're cool with sharing power on the global scale and fully buys in on the BRICS bloc...

Russia looks weak right now because the invasion has been such and embarrassment, but that can change surprisingly quickly. The global shift towards authoritarianism is coming hand-in-hand with a shift away from US/Eurocentric hegemony.

[–] feddylemmy 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Code review came back. Too many nested ifs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

These arent nested. Any of these can happen independently and any one of them happening makes some others more likely to happen too.

Each of them adds to shifting the balance of power and noone knows where the breaking point is.

Of course there is also a few IFs going the other way around, or were we just know it will have an impact but not which way

If the Russian people get fed up with the economy...

If Putin dies...

If Trump dies...

If Xi dies...

If there is an escalation in South East Asia...

If there is a further escalation in West Asia...

If there is a major climate event in Russia/Eastern Europe/Western Europe/North America...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They will if they have the US backing them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Still seems like they'd get their shit wrecked if they started a war with Europe, even with help.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You vastly underestimate the size and power of the US military. This isn't even a brag; it's atrocious that our military is so large, but the US would have little trouble taking on Europe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

That's what they said about Afghanistan too though. Plus, the odds of the US getting directly involved in a war against Europe any time soon are still pretty damn low.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

An armchair analyst take here but I think they are gearing up to finally try to take Pokrovsk in the spring.

Folks at lemmy.ml were shouting from the rafters most of last year: Invading Kursk was a mistake! Russia will drive them back, and Pokrovsk will fall any day now! But like Avdiivka, I expect it to be a siege and for it to take a while. If they can take it early enough this year, Russia will again be able to conquer massive swaths of farmland because that's really the only thing the "throw bodies at the problem" strategy is very effective at. If Ukraine holds out until the late fall, Russia will again be stalled for months, so the pace of their entire army will be "1 regional hub per year", which I'm not sure is sustainable for Russia's economy and society.

[–] Triasha 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the pace of Russian advancement has been slowing down which is understandable because their losses are not sustainable. Their only hope for true victory is if Ukrainian losses are even less sustainable.

This is possible, especially if Germany and the US, the 2 wealthiest partners, cut off or scale back aid. But at the moment Ukraine seems slightly ahead of the attrition game and the US just INCREASED sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Perun (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHUQmJCa3aY) just released a video yesterday that went over Ukraine's war material situation.

TLDW: Ukrainian military equipment is for the most part qualitative better than it was at the start of the war but not qualitative.

Russia on the other hand is qualitatively worse, is running out of reserve war equipment (Soviet stockpiles), and is expected to deplete some of categories of equipment sometime in 2024 (tank stockpile source: Covert Cabal https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8CcuVCDEUw).