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What is a good alternative to proton mail these days?

Cc @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What in the spam username is this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to say... Some sort of self hoster with a cheap domain going for the "security through obscurity" approach...

https://crt.sh/?q=91268476.xyz

I'll let you explore, but definitely a self hoster!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

.com’s are 10 bucks. How cheap could it be??

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Free for a year or so, depending on where you register

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The 1.111B class (basically the numbered domains) cost ~1 dollar/yr.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you're self-hosting something for your own use, there's nothing better than the dollar .xyz domains, as that's literally what they were priced like that for. Dunno if I would use them for public services, though.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had a decent experience with Tuta.

[–] Venicon 13 points 1 week ago

Opened a Tuta account six months ago and have never been back on Protonmail as a result. Same quality for free.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After trying and failing to get used to Proton's UX, Fastmail has been great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Been using Fastmail for a few years now. I really like it.

[–] poldy 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same answer as last time this was asked, I am very happy with Posteo.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 10 points 1 week ago

No implying that asking multiple times is bad.

We should all be asking about and offering alternatives, a lot. Over and over.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I've been a Runbox customer for many years. Never had a problem. Runbox is operated from privacy-respecting Norway.

[–] squirrelwithnut 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with Proton?

[–] SpiceDealer 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its CEO is kissing Trump's ass.

[–] yool_ooloo 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

really? that sucks. really? i am genuinely so disappointed, jeez

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's one take: that Andrew Yang is a Trump supporter. However, another take is that he made a massive mistake by making it seem as if he supported Trump, even though he was talking about something specific and narrow.

https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he doesn't, then he could come out and state that and address all of the republican problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Indeed, he could. It sounds like it's an expectation from you, and that if he doesn't then he is entirely a Trump or Republican supporter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Always has been a sketchy company - any company who claims Swiss privacy laws are good (and in reality operates out of the US) is lying to you.

[–] SpiceDealer 7 points 1 week ago
[–] courval 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry I'm not really adding to the question but we need alternatives for a lot of apps.. Fb, Instagram, WhatsApp,etc it's impossible for me to ditch them all without loosing contact with friends/family.. any other threads going on about this? Maybe have a general thread and subsequent migration movements, we really need to act on this social life monopoly we've became hostages to..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the problem with WhatsApp? Aren't the chats encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Whatsapp is owned by meta

Not a shitty product, but the company is shit unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Tuta, StartMail, Mailbox all have good reputations for privacy respecting services.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

StartMail is owned by an advertising company, it's not a better choice whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Until they don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Can vouch for mailbox.org.

I've been using their 1€ per month tier for a year now, everything has worked well.

[–] daggermoon 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Kolabnow is great.

[–] letsgo2themall 2 points 1 week ago

mailbox.org seems pretty good. No apps though. And setting up syncing for calendar and contacts takes a bit of work. but once it's working, it's good. I'm using thunderbird mobile for mail and DAVx5 to sync contacts and calendar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I've been using PurelyMail for over a year now and it's been solid. Probably aimed more at tech-minded folk though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

any already mentioned here + using your own domain name

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OOTL.

Whats the issue with Protonmail ?

[–] bigboismith 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ceo promoted Trump. They offer a crypto wallet. Nothing wrong with their products per say, mostly politics. L

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Too fucking funny. This is because of the various bad news, right? So fucking funny. Everyone and their dog bragging about proton mail the last few years and you're a moron if you haven't switched blah blah blah.

[–] asdfasdfasdf 8 points 1 week ago

I mean, it is still objectively way better than most / all mainstream solutions. The issues is with the CEO's political stance, nothing about the technical implementation details or anything the company did wrong with managing your data.

I'm still interested in supporting a different company because of it, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Proton over Gmail any day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm so sorry. You'll think I'm annoying and stupid, but would it be absurd to ask for clarification regarding what you mean? I couldn't really understand your point and it sounds like you have a passion for this topic and a clear point of view.

[–] Stovetop -1 points 1 week ago

"Corporations are never your friend."

But this one is different! It's non-profit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

disroot

autistici

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Sadly the best product mail-wise is currently MS Exchange online. Privacy wise Posteo is probably the best.