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[–] [email protected] 4 points 38 minutes ago

I'd argue theocracy is serving the same cause as fascism, which is to manipulate the public to go along.

According to Karl Marx ( Das Kapital ) Capitalism bleeds money into the coffers of the ownership class until the system turns into oligarchy which turns into monarchy.

The US indoctrinates its people against communism and socialism (really, basic models from which we'd develop a community-focused economy): These words are regarded openly as derision one throws at people they want to disrespect. And yet the only alternative is monarchism, upheld by religious indoctrination (the same thing that propels dangerous cults) and fascist rhetoric ( such as the same enemy within notion that fueled the holocaust ).

Either we actively resist this, or most of us are going to get fed into the war machine and the genocide machine.

And yes, by turning away from communism -- again not Soviet communism or even any given known model, but striving towards a community-based government and economic system -- we ruled out all exceptions than feudal monarchy. Hence all the oligarchs paying literal tribute to Trump. He will be king.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Reagan was elected by the moral majority and the teamsters union. Organized religion and organized crime.

Relevant George Carlin: https://youtu.be/4hm7D2Ms_zc

Also relevant Bill Hicks: https://youtu.be/MXezjbuzh14

[–] LanguageIsCool 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Dorkyd68 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Irv from mdr don't fuck around bruh

[–] [email protected] 81 points 15 hours ago

“Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex.”
― Frank Zappa

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This comment made a lot of sense in 1986, with Communism being at its very latest stages.

In 2025 it seems like that particular zombie is crawling out of its grave.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

Are these communist threats in the room with us right now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

To be clear, though some folks like to make a big deal about someone being on .ml, I am not a communist, and the part that was significant to me was that our trajectory was being openly called by folks that far back, not any message regarding communism.

[–] jaybone 9 points 10 hours ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Probably by tankies who still think China is “communist”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

He got the fascist part right.
The theocracy though, that he got wrong. Our leaders only pay lip service to God: their true drive is money.
This isn't a theocracy: it's a broligarchy.

[–] ZILtoid1991 2 points 2 hours ago

Every time a christian does something wrong, their christianity card gets revoked. Every other group has to collectively bare the responsibilities of a very few.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The laws banning abortion and porn are directly based on the Christian ideology of these people. It may not be your version and they may be hypocrites, but it’s still theocracy.

[–] captainlezbian 3 points 2 hours ago

Theocrats are rarely true believers. We're headed towards the mammonite theocracy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

You are going to see a rise of Dominionism in action over the next 4+ years. As long as Dominionism isn't in direct opposition to the oligarchy, it will continue to rise. See project 2025, prayer in schools, mandatory displays of the ten commandments, federal money going to religious schools, churches endorsing the republican party and not losing their tax-exempt statuses, etc..

[–] Mrkawfee 5 points 6 hours ago

Christian Zionism is in rude health in the US.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

My understanding of actual theocracies might be wrong, but I imagine that the people on top of such structures know 100% absolutely that religion is just a tool to oppress and control the people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago

No. It's steering toward theocracy. Thanks, Jerry fucking Falwell - may you rest in piss. The whole horror of what the US is living in now is thanks to that one greedy fuck. He was potentially going to lose money over desegregation because of properties he owned. His bright idea? Get evangelical Christians involved. It worked. This whole thing cascades into modern conservatism. Before Falwell got involved, most people considered abortion to be a Catholic issue. This fuck decided that involving evangelicals would once again make him money, so he used them. This is just the most blatant example of how things have gone. Laws have been written based on the bible as a sole source for at least 60 years, and the people involved thoroughly believe that it is the only acceptable moral or ethical code. The amount of laws that attempt to legally enforce a protestant idea of Christianity every day is insane. Thanks, Jerry, for sending the US down the path of Theocracy. We're nearly there - maybe another three years!

[–] jaybone 10 points 10 hours ago

One might argue theocracy was always a grift.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Theocracy is always about lip service. The ones who are actually about service to God aren't concerned with power. Religion, as an institution, just provides a convenient "moral" claim to power to be exploited by power-hungry individuals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Theocrats invoke the divine to rule. That's not Trump's and his rich backer's modus operandi. Trump only mentions God in passing when it comes to conning religious-minded people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

Trump is not the end all be all of political aspiration. His flavor was not the dominant streak at the time of this interview. Before, and beside, his relatively recent claim to political power were, and are, claims predicated on theocratic moral justification.