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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 182 points 1 month ago (3 children)

awesome, that will go nicely with my 6-month financing for last week's Papa Joe's pizza

[–] frunch 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Considering i don't plan on retiring, this is fine -- i will leave as much debt as possible in my wake when i move onto the great gig in the sky πŸ˜‡

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Except for the fact that you'll eventually have everything you own taken away AND be put in jail.

Debtors prison called debtor's prison might be illegal, but tons of de facto debtors prisons that de jure go by other names are becoming the standard way for US local and state governments to punish people for existing while poor.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't have, and won't have children.

When I get into my older years, I'm just gonna grab a couple thoussnd loans, and be done with life. Fuck it. I'm gonna spend my elderly years lonely, high off my ass, and giving the middle finger to society.

I figure I'll go to base ball games, and start drinking lemonaide with tea in it. And also take some drugs.

Look man. Don't even get me started about the damn 2020 rules that have stuck around.

I don't understand why they felt the NEED to play baseball during a global health pandemic, but if we're starting out already establishing the fact that they had to play baseball in that....THEN I say the 2020 rule changes made sense. For 2020.

But now??? Fuck the pitching clock. Fuck the extra innings man on second! I do NOT want my game sped up. I do not want a faster game. I want to sit in the sun, and enjoy a slow breezy summer day, in my happy place watching baseball. Look, I'll be 85. And now you're telling me my damn baseball ticket which cost me $30,000 because of inflation by 2067, now means I only get 2 hours of baseball??? Hell, thats hardly even enough time to find my seat! You know I don't walk so fast. I don't mean because I'll be 85. I'm 41 now, and I didn't walk so fast 20 years ago.

But now you tell me, after 85 years on this planet. Living through 9/11, a global pandemic, 6 terms of a trump presidency, global warming making winter in the north 115F degrees, and after all that bullshit, you wanna make my baseball shorter??? Oooooooh, and you wonder why us old timers are cranky! Boy let me tell you when I was a young spruce, I'd have pounded 15 shots of whiskey, drank about 24 beers, and then proceeded to mop the floor with you! Well lucky for you, I've only had 10 shots of whiskey, and 15 beers, but I also took some other extra ciricular activities, and now I'm not sure if you're a person, or if I'm talking to a lamp post again!

I'm gonna be a grumpy old man, who yells at the youth for not understanding things they weren't alive to experience.

It's gonna be great!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By next week you should be able to roll that over and get a second mortgage secured against the first pizza for a new pizza.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

luckily I don't have to eat every day!

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[–] hawgietonight 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

should have gone to Mahjong's Pizza, you would have got a lower APR

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[–] robocall 101 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I wish Reddit wouldn't disable comments under ad-posts. Such a shitty website and so happy I left it for Lemmy.

[–] itsathursday 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Same thing with YouTube. I wish I could vent to the people responsible for putting rubbish in front of me. They deserve to hear my opinion as much as they think they have the right to serve me that ad.

[–] Diplomjodler3 31 points 1 month ago

They know exactly what they're doing and they absolutely don't give a flying fuck about what you or I think of it.

[–] sturlabragason 21 points 1 month ago

You’ve discovered the reason why comments are disabled πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think ads on the internet should only be allowed if they allow comments, with extremely limited moderation capabilities so that they can't just delete all the comments they don't like.

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[–] Evotech 15 points 1 month ago

There's so many ads now! It's crazy

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Payday loans making a comeback, eh?

And because they don't appear on your credit check you can take a dozen out from different companies! What could possibly go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Payday loans making a comeback, eh?

They never left. The financial vultures just keep renaming them and finding other loopholes to skirt regulations and keep trapping victims in their endless debt spirals.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It tends to move around from scam to scam.

A lot of the payday loan companies seemed to disappear in the UK. The main one was Wonga, which went under after we made it so that companies lending money would have to pay compensation if they lent money to people who would be unlikely to be able to repay it.

Then there was places like BrightHouse which specialised in selling basic household items to poor people with a 99% APR on them. So that Β£300 washing machine ends up costing over Β£1000 by the time they own it.

The current one is places like Klarna, which is a buy now pay later system. Popular because it doesn't charge any interest (most of the money comes in fees from the retailers) and they don't put it on your credit history, but miss a payment and they'll be on you like a ton of bricks.

It's just the same thing over and over, which a slight change to skirt any new regulations. It's still the same cash flow problems underlying it all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I used to work for one the biggest in the UK. A lot of the new legislation at the time destroyed us. Deservingly so.

I felt our company wasn't the worse because we were upfront about what we would charge but we had a lot of sister companies that would have a lot of hidden charges and the execs loved those. Well, guess what, legislation hit us hard because all those others wouldn't be compliant.

Personally, I hated payday loans and I think they're horrible, but I worked at Barclays too. An interview I had with a team there was basically working on "cheating" taxes. So like, it's not much better for society in my opinion either.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

They’ve been here to stay. They just yassified them and are now aiming them at a different demographic. They’re tryingβ€”against all logicβ€”to gentrify poverty traps. Welcome to the future.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Sponsored Lemmy Comment: Hungry for a can of beans? Sign up now and get $100 of debt in minutes!

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[–] Lemminary 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I'm immediately wary of anything involving credit that I didn't seriously consider or plan for. I can't imagine going into debt because I'd rather drink coffee at Starbucks than at home.

[–] Anamnesis 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you mean wary or does it make you tired?

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[–] LaunchesKayaks 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm the same way and I just had to sign up for a credit card specifically for vet bills because my dog needs emergency surgery. The vet told me the specific card isn't super predatory or whatever, but I didn't really have any time to think things over. I just want my dog better, and I know that I can't afford it on my own rn.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now you too can easily make a ten dollar coffee cost twenty!

[–] T00l_shed 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow a 100% interest rate? What a bargain!

[–] Maggoty 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For short term loans? You'd be so lucky to have it just double.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought I was being advertised to on Lemmy despite my various ad blockers and was furious for about 10 seconds lmao

[–] JcbAzPx 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Glad I'm not the only one getting mad when I see/hear an add now 😭

[–] MolecularCactus1324 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

drained my bank account, maxed my credit cards, but credit genie was there to help me take on more short term debt.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This will be the new normal if we don't stop Capitalism now.

A world where you own nothing, and are expected to survive based solely on a debt that you are expected to pay back but it's an open secret that you never will.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My first taste of pure evil capitalism was when my fast food job in college was forcing everyone to switch to getting a "cash card" rather than a check. That card had a $0.25 fee every time you used it.

I don't know if it still exists or if sane politicians told companies that shit was illegal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're trying to go back to the 1800s. The giant, old, textile factory near where I live had dorms where the workers would live on premises and were paid in script for the stores owned by the factory. Like coal villages. They converted them into luxury loft apartments now.

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[–] HowManyNimons 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. Probably, she read the terms and conditions.

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[–] SirQuackTheDuck 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So now they're getting free organic marketing by being a shitty ad? Reacting the brand would be better.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Why? She needed a latte, and because she suffers from poor choices, she can now get a $8 latte that will cost $219 to pay back!

[–] AngryRobot 26 points 1 month ago

Gotta keep the wage slaves in debt so there's no upward mobility.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

So glad I don’t use Reddit

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had to take out a loan to replace my water heater. The only reason I can afford the payment is because I just paid off my car. I need to keep that old car running but I already have car repairs piling up that I can't afford.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

We’ll have you ever considered that you’re to blame? You’re posting on lemmy, probably from an iPhone! you could have spent that .75sec working instead of eating your avocado toast! You probably have a refrigerator too! AND a microwave! How poor can you be if you have a car and a fridge and a microwave!

(This idiotic argument was quoted from multiple, actually real sources, sadly).

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[–] iAvicenna 17 points 1 month ago

phew crisis averted

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Seeing Amazon offering a 3 month payment plan for 25 bucks cat hair removers yesterday blew my mind.

[–] SLVRDRGN 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Oh, he he, I'm so giggly. Getting coffee today is just sending me"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

remember the pay over time pizza thing?

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[–] randon31415 13 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Did... did they just reinvent credit cards from first principles? Just without the card?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

u/CreditgenieApp Promoted

Ewwww! So glad I had somewhere else to go after dumping that place!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I wonder how they interact with regulations of the payday loan industry.

[–] Snowclone 11 points 1 month ago

If anyone is curious this is the process

  1. Be fucked
  2. Payday loan
  3. Payday
  4. 600% are you fucking kidding me?
  5. What's the minimum?
  6. I'll pay this the rest of my life I guess
  7. Be fucked by high interest loan
  8. Beg for money from family, friends, co-workers
  9. Thank God now I'm back to zero
  10. Still exactly as fucked as before

The Old Poor standard method

  1. Be Fucked
  2. Beg for money from family, friends, co-workers, new GF, new GF's roommate, A dog owner you met at a dog park, Mormon missionaries, your landlord, your landlords ugly kid, your cousin, total strangers after you pretend you have the same name as them and act just JAZZED about it, anyone you suspect is sexually attracted to you, your nanna's bridge group, other poor people, the homeless, people who speak the same language you do and are having a celebration at a public park after you convince them your ''John's Kid'' or ''Tia Marta's thursday church preacher'' literally anyone.
  3. Somehow still exactly as fucked as before but now you feel HELLA GUILT, because Tia Marta made you go to church on thursday and the preacher is very convincing. But at least you can't be LEGALLY obligated to pay a loan shark money, and you saved a lot of time.
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