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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago

Alice along with her husband live at Chevithorne Barton, an estate in Devon, which houses the Plant Heritage National Oak collection.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

People are slowly waking up that "us vs them" includes a LOT of "us" as they learn who "them" are.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

They are afraid! Continue whatever is currently done makes them afraid. Finally they feel like the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I had to look it up.... unfortunately. Coming from a Brit is crazy though, considering their whole history as a country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What would make the British especially immune to having shitty upper classmen? They had a world-spanning empire and they still have an actual king.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No that was my point. Weird that they still clasp so tightly to class differences despite all the lessons they should have been learning from their entire history.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Well as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, this person is very much not working class.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago
[–] BroBot9000 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] latenightnoir 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I instantly thought of the Starship Troopers line and my brain got really confused because Fascists said it in that one.

This then made me realise that the main difference between most fictional dystopias and real life is that the villains in dystopias are always machiavellian and competent, whereas IRL villains are exceedingly lacking in any type of cleverness or style. Literally stuffed suits pushing lowest common denominators for the sake of power - be it money, influence, or control. Jesus, this made me so sad... There's literally no artistic value in this apocalypse...

[–] BroBot9000 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m right with ya there. So sick of the entire world being wrung dry and mined hollow, all just so that a few people can see a little line go slightly sharper upwards.

[–] Sanctus 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And they dont even have the decency to do it with flair. They're all the same mind numbing flavor of old ass bag of bones or misogynistic and racist, or both. Its too much to ask for the world eaters to be burdened by drip. We're crushed to death under a burgeoning sigh instead of maniacal laughter.

[–] Postmortal_Pop 9 points 3 days ago

This is the biggest sin that the oligarchy commits in my mind. Musk has enough money and power to buy Mount Rushmore and have of carved into a giant ominous skull with a laser built in the eye, or create a lair suspended over an active volcano. Bezos has a listening device in half the homes in America, most villains never manage half a city!

Instead I get to see the world end to neglect. It's bad enough that I have to live trough it, but it's not even exciting to talk about.

[–] latenightnoir 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Seriously, it's like they all share the same fucking personality!

And I may be misreading the whole thing, but I've been getting the impression that those on the Right who do actually have a bit of flavour to themselves are slowly distancing themselves from the movement and coasting nearer to the center. They don't even like each other, ffs!

I swear it's the biggest mindfuck to me, how the hell can a movement this significant be driven by hate toward the Other, toward each other, AND toward themselves...

[–] Sanctus 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hate blinds greater than the brightest light. It twists and pollutes your mind until your thoughts only travel in one direction, towards it.

[–] latenightnoir 2 points 3 days ago

Beautifully poetic, like a cognitive black hole. Insatiable, unthinking, and vast. Fucking horrifying, that...

[–] SkyezOpen 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's literally no artistic value in this apocalypse...

It's bullshit that we got the dystopia without the cyberpunk asthetic.

[–] latenightnoir 0 points 2 days ago

Right?! I mean, ffs, we could've at least received the LED-backed Neo-Brutalism, but we're still at glass and steel (and cardboard for residentials, of course - I sure do wonder how planned obsolescence will fit into this aspect as well, we all know it inevitably will...).

The closest thing we got is literally the Cybertruck, and I would not want aliens knowing that my species had that idea at one point in our development. It's like someone who doesn't understand cyberpunk at a fundamental level took too much ketamine and tried their hand at doing a cyberpunk.

I'll not even hope for Brutalist robots, as Apple have infected us with a bastardisation of the Dieter Rams smoothness, they'll probably look like action figures.

At least the music's going in interesting directions. It truly has a life of its own, growing like a glorious aural dandelion through the concrete slabs of corporate skullduggery. This Post-Modern sharp turn toward synthesis is doing wonders with reinterpreting tried and tested elements! Well, if one chooses to explore a bit, that is, as the mainstream is mostly Boardroom Pop as always.

P.S.: probably a bit unfair toward other EV manufacturers as some have started taking some risks design-wise. But if vertically oversized grilles become a mainstay, I feel confident in declaring that trend a crime against the philosophical concept of Aesthetics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I read it as the reverse initially. Thought it was a classic Lemmy take for what looked like a newspaper article. Why- who- how could someone know about the culture war and the class war and draw this conclusion? (Ed: she doesn't know about the class war, see below)

Or maybe it's a bait title and the body makes a completely different point, that's probably the reason I'm looking at a picture of the title right now and not reading the whole article.

Edit: the article

Edit 2: It's actually a kinda muddled argument she's making. She's using "class war" not in the sense a marxist might use, but to describe something a populist party would do, which is turning public anger towards a specific demographic to justify their political actions. She doesn't want Labour to alienate the richer parts of its voter base by "bashing the most wealthy" or "punishing the rich". But she doesn't show that Labour would actually message it like that, just that they have plans that would tax wealthier people more, which seems perfectly Labour-like and not something they would need special messaging to justify. So if Labour wants to pivot away from a culture war and towards actual left-wing policy, that's not "starting a class war".

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We should replace it with no war. A world that works for all.

I'm down to talk details with Bezos and Musk whenever they're around. 3's good for me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, but for a just world, you need a class war. The rich & powerful need the system to oppress almost everyone on the planet so they can continue to profit. No class war would be great, but they are already fighting it, and we will never be free of it until we win.

Musk & Bezos, if you could ever get them in a room, would have no patience to hear you out. They are committed to the notion that they are special and you are a worthless peon because they have all of the money & power and you don't. They would rage at you for even suggesting a change that makes the peons less poor, because they don't think we "deserve" it. They think we need them to rule us.

They have to think this way, because it's the only way they can maintain their position and not be crushed by the guilt.

That's why it's a war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

There's always been a class war, what matters is if Labour is paying attention.

[–] Pothetato 4 points 2 days ago

That'd work great if the 1% actually felt empathy and had the ability/desire to put people's needs over that of investors. Oh well back to war.