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[–] daddy32 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GrammarPolice 2 points 1 hour ago

The necessary clarification

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago
[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux 36 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

So, the real elephant in the room is that for the average worker, they are more productive (ie, working much harder) and under much, much more financial stress... which effects epigenetics

and... people are having children later in life, leading to children with more genetic defects (the average person has about 7 genetic defects, some people have more, some fewer)

in the 1950s, a man could work at a factory with a high school diploma, own a house, support a family, and have a wife as a full-time assistant at home

now both parents have to work, if there even are children, there may or may not be a house, and many are just single. people are under huge amounts of stress, and all of it effects epigenetics including via weaker bonds within families

bodies interpret stress as either "uh oh, i'm going to get kicked out of my tribe and will have to forage and hunt on my own and may die" or "there may be a famine soon"

the fact that the vitamin levels of food has gone down is a real thing, bodies remember things like that, and can be aware of the decrease, and start to prepare for famines

TLDR captialism without proper government regulation of externalities is making people fat along with higher populations and decreased vitamin levels in food due to over-farming

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

But the most novel and surprising thing that researchers have observed is that when a certain group of neurons in that same nucleus is deactivated, specifically those that project to the jejunum, a part of the small intestine, the length of the microvilli in the intestinal wall is shortened, which reduces its surface area and thus the place in whose blood capillaries fat absorption occurs. The brain thus regulates this absorption by controlling the length and surface area of the intestinal spaces in which it takes place.

Huh, so your intestines can stretch to control absorption rate, cool!

[–] RBWells 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I know that while pregnant, the digestion slows down, to try to wring more nutrition from what you eat. I also know that I eat about the same as my ex and my husband and both managed to get fat. Also I drop weight when stressed and maintain a normal BMI when not so stressed, but others I know gain when stressed.

It all is very interesting to me, but so strange that it's broken for so many people, and most all in the direction of overweight.

[–] PlasticExistence 5 points 16 hours ago

I drop weight while stressed too, even when I’m mostly eating normally.

[–] maxenmajs 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's pretty interesting. This could be the basis of a new weight-loss drug that works by limiting calorie absorption rather than regulating hunger cues.

I'm going to be mildly annoyed if the fat acceptance latches on to this as yet another study validating their belief that they can't lose weight.

[–] CeeBee_Eh 5 points 14 hours ago

I'm going to be mildly annoyed if the fat acceptance latches on to this as yet another study validating their belief that they can't lose weight.

Latches on to what exactly?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Limiting oil absorption in the intestines sounds like a recipe for greasy diarrhea like Olestra caused.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

It is. Ask anyone with pancreatic insufficiency.

[–] shalafi 17 points 23 hours ago

I was gonna say, we already tried this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Ooh, diarrhea chips!

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[–] Carnelian 39 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I actually went and skimmed the study, this is a very good article I would say in terms of lack of sensationalizing. That is exactly the main takeaway; perhaps we can get food (fat specifically) to ‘pass through’ us without being absorbed by the body. A fascinating possibility, if perhaps wasteful.

I'm going to be mildly annoyed if the fat acceptance latches on to this as yet another study validating their belief that they can't lose weight.

On the very first page of the study:

The predominant increase in fat and calorie-dense food consumption worldwide has contributed substantially to the ongoing pandemic of obesity and metabolic disorders

Essentially what they’ve discovered is that they can interrupt a process that occurs normally in everyone, whenever there are fats in your intestine. The headline alone gives the impression of possibly being related to “set-point” theory, in which thinner people’s brains are just tuned differently. So yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see this start popping up in the spaces despite not supporting the stance at all

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

These drugs already exist. But they have a bunch of side effects.

Rebound effects from thinking you can eat more because of the drugs and fat stool are the most obvious ones.

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[–] givesomefucks 21 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

their belief that they can’t lose weight.

For a lot of people it's a poverty and lack of healthcare thing...

Even just annual checkups are a huge help because weight is being tracked and someone gets early and continuous warnings their health is being impacted.

They have as much control as someone trying to lift themselves up by their bootstraps.

If they can't escape poverty and gain access to healthcare... They're less likely to maintain a healthy weight.

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[–] TwanHE 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Might explain why I can barely gain weight, once had a camp week where me and a friend had the exact same food intake and exercise but he gained 2kg while I lost 3kg.

Sofar doctors have thought I just had a fast metabolism but seems like there could be more at play.

[–] Valmond 3 points 5 hours ago

So you mean you are not enough stressed out ^^ jk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago

This explains so much about my guts

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