In the trade industry here in New Zealand, we have a specific term for such a person, we generally refer to them as 'cunt'
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it's gaslighting. yep Definitely gaslighting. I totally know what gaslighting means and everything I don't like is gaslighting
or maybe it's woke. tell them to stop gaslighting you with their woke comments
/bj
I think what you are describing is either egocentric bias or experiential bias.
“ Egocentric bias is the tendency to rely too heavily on one's own perspective and/or have a higher opinion of oneself than reality. It appears to be the result of the psychological need to satisfy one's ego “
Thanks, this sounds like the most accurate and precise answer to the question.
Yeah, the method used sounds like some sort of selection bias (cherry-picking or whatever you want to call it), but the motivation behind it (as there is a definite intent here to steer the discussion) is likely egocentric or just a general need to be contrarian or condescending.
The word my family uses for that is "mom".
Invalidation
Yes- they are invalidating or minimizing your experience.
Anecdotal evidence
If it’s even an argument and not a simple refutation, I think it’s got to be based on personal anecdote, but it also kinda just sounds like “No, you’re wrong.” with a sprinkle of anecdote or no true Scotsman.
Argument from asininity?
Anecdata.
Unless it’s stupid, then it’s anecdodo.
This is the answer
it's a fucking stupid answer. that's not what anecdotal evidence means at all
What does anecdotal evidence mean then?
It's just a broad umbrella concept in formal logic. what makes you think this interaction is best described by logic and not psychological or social dynamics? it's not like the fuckin dude is publishing a research paper. op has someone busting their aglets and wants to find words to describe the experience. what makes you think their chief complaint is the same concept that can describe the statement "all cats are black"
Eristics aside, I think anecdotal fits:
It is an informal fallacy where a person uses personal experiences or a singular example to back their argument or stance instead of compelling evidence.
Edit: After reading the question again, and trying to understand your thoughts, I think I agree more with egocentric bias.
ooh i see so it doesnt fall under formal logic. interesting! honestly that makes me feel even more strongly against it lol. but still more than anything it comes down to rationalizing an irrational process -- after all even speaking the language of faulty logic is a way of turning things into logic!
yea i didnt specify it in my own answer but i think egocentric bias is a good fit. however even that expression does not inherently convey the hostility that OP is experiencing!
Reminds me of the "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy based on the example you provided. Wiki article
Insecure, contrarian, infantile.
Conservative/ reactionary.
No seriously. Take the time to look at the structure and framing of conservative and reactionary arguments. Its almost ALWAYS rooted in strictly their lived experience: no other lived experience matters. The answers others are giving are technically correct, but also miss how deeply rooted this particular structure is in political identity.
Invalidation?
Dismissal?
Look, I don't know what made-up arguments you've been in, but whenever I post online, no one has ever tried to dismiss my experiences as untrue.
/s
The Linux Argument.
Non-jokes aside, there are multiple names for this. Anecdotal evidence is the primary one while confirmation bias is discarding statements (factual or fictional) that do not align with your vision.
As someone with personal experience with interacting with people, I have to disagree. Nobody has EVER done anything like this, and it does not require a word.
Unsympathetic
If the people you talk to can't / won't or don't acknowledge your existence or your experience, then they are just simply unsympathetic and have little or no empathy for others.
I don’t know of a single word or bit of slang that describes that (annoying) type of personality. It’s a bit contrarian with a dash of experience hijacking. There should be a word for that though. Any ideas?
Contramaxxing?
I would call this qualia chauvinism, when people need to feel their subjective experience is universal.
Depending on the angle (a lot going on there) you could go with "denial". As in, you're lying, because if you're bot, then my life sucked, and that's unacceptable, so you're lying.
"Actshuuuaallyy..."
This person is one-upping you only to prove to themselves that their experience was justified, by making yours unjustified. I get defensive when someone brings up a workplace I struggled with. I think the perspective of the person that put your experience down as "not-real" is attacking your experience out of defense. It's rude and ugly, but the alternative is that "warehouses" are Not bad to work in, or that you are better at working a warehouse than they were. It might be emotionally painful to consider those alternatives, and it's much easier to make younger workers feel overly entitled.
thre is a phrase. its called typical internet discourse ;p
Confirmation bias.
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone’s got one
Gaslighting?
No
No, gaslighting is when you say it's sunny outside and someone argues that it's actually cloudy. You can see for yourself that it's sunny, but they insist it's not. Usually, it's not so cut-and-dry, my example is absurd to demonstrate how insane it is. Usually it's more subtle, like you're sure you put your keys on the key-hook next to the door, but your spouse says that you didn't and then finds them in the bathroom or something. You're 100% sure you put them on the hook, but your spouse is 100% sure you didn't. (Spoiler, you did, and the spouse moved them, then lied and said you must have done it. The point is to make you doubt yourself.)