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[–] YippieKyeAy 3 points 6 hours ago

This clip is just a bit chilling to hear them say it out loud and welcome it. I get it they’re Russians but we’re cooked unless something happens between now and inauguration. Only posting the link to reddit because I don’t know which video the clip is from and wasn’t going to sift through Russian pundit videos. I periodically check that subreddit in hopes something does happen because as we all know trump is a Russian asset and they only want the downfall of America. He will divide us all. What we can do though is not let them win and we need to not turn against our own people, no matter how much we disagree on politics because the end result will be much worse.

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[–] kreskin 26 points 16 hours ago

They dont need to "act like" it, they need to actually be it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The dems suck too. This is a class war. We need a class party. One where no office member can make above what the bottom 80% of the country makes and no dodgy bullshit or gifts or spousal income workarounds or anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That'll just mean only rich people will hold office in that party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No rich people would be allowed to hold office in that party. That'd be the point.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

So homeless then, I guess. Unless there's some secret sauce to owning/renting a home in DC and your home district while making $16k annually (that's the average after tax income for the lowest earning quintile of the population)

Edit: i may be misreading what you meant...if you meant they'd be in the 4th lowest quintile, that gets its up to around $120k...still a tall order.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

You were misreading.

What I brought up obviously doesn't have all the details ironed out. Just a base concept. Add some money in for the 2nd home.

[–] aesthelete 1 points 16 hours ago

Problem with that is congress people make more than 90% of the country.

[–] Allonzee 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That's literally all they've been doing since Reagan.

acting like an opposition party.

It took way too long, but that's why you can't drum up the numbers anymore, all but the thickest of skulls have finally realized that Democrat and Republican are both just big corpo, bickering over the social issue symptoms of our rigged economy and society as they maintain the economy and it's perverse incentives as it is, on the same take by the same oligarchs.

At least Republicans throw their horrible voters a bone, "Oh you hate the other? we'll be cruel to them to entertain you and tickle your schaudenfreude fancy!"

Democrats get nothing for their troubles. We're told it's our duty.

Meanwhile, killing your own non wealthy customers for moar profit? R👍D👌

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

I'm reluctantly happy that people are starting to see that wedge issues are crafted by corporations and parroted by business bought representative to pit man against man who can barely buy bread to the point where e pluribus unum was meaningless there decades ago. Greed has no party affiliation.

[–] Ensign_Crab 26 points 1 day ago

No, they need to be an opposition party for the first fucking time in decades.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (21 children)

And they won’t.

The Democratic Party is frankly played out at this point. It’s pretty obviously a zombie party. We need a new one that isn’t beholden to neoliberalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

They're wholly captured by vested interests.

[–] kreskin 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Lets call it the giant meteor party, GMP. Itll be about issues related to social good, universal healthcare, age and wealth limits on government officials, banning lobbyists and pacs, eliminating the electoral college, progressive taxation, and defunding the military industrial complex. No centrists allowed. They can pick social good or they can be republicans.

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[–] Zak 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I've learned from the last two presidential elections is that right now, the incumbent party loses if people are unhappy with the current state of the country. A clever, but evil opposition party would try to make things worse.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 9 points 1 day ago

This is why "doing what republiQans do" isn't a useful tactic for Democrats. Never has been, though the party leaders have never learned it.

[–] verdantbanana 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

both sides are bought and paid for with the same checks

only thing that could be done is to start over

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Both sides do raise money to operate, but the people funding the two parties are, to a very large extent, different.

[–] PP_BOY_ 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'll acknowledge that this chart is a little old

Corporate America:

[–] officermike 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Google/Alphabet didn't make that list?

[–] Zak 2 points 1 day ago

Probably not then. Maybe now.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Michael Fucking Bloomberg is the top individual Democrat contributor in 2024.

A billionaire is a billionaire is a billionaire. When people say they are funded by the same people, we mean they're funded by the same class interests. Individual small donations from the working class are a literal drop in the bucket compared to what the wealthy contribute.

The Democrats are still funded by the same set of class interests as the Republicans: the wealthy.

If the majority of your funding comes from people who like low taxes for the rich, don't like programs to help the poor, and who generally just want to benefit the already-wealthy, then you're going to really fucking struggle to represent interests of the working class, because the people funding you will stop funding you when you stop focusing on their problems.

Michael Bloomberg in my eyes is not materially different from Elon Musk. But sure, somehow the people funding the party are "different." We didn't just watch Pelosi squash AOCs committee for her wealthy donors, who don't like AOC or what she's selling. Give me a break.

[–] JWBananas 1 points 16 hours ago

Michael Fucking Bloomberg is the top individual Democrat contributor in 2024.

Your article link is from 2020.

[–] PP_BOY_ 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously. If you haven't switched your party affiliation to Independent, how's the time to do it. It'll take a pretty big hit to their register to actually get the lames in D.C. to care about us again

[–] Gumbyyy 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is, a lot of states have closed primaries. So by registering independent, you throw away the one opportunity you would conceivably actually have to help shape the party's future by having a say in who their nominees are.

[–] PP_BOY_ 1 points 7 hours ago

Good thing the Dems have rigged every primary since '08 and seem to have no desire to change that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Pass laws to limit election spending/fund raising so that the playing field is about as even as we can manage. After those are set in stone and strong, dismantle the national committees and open the actual gates to allow whoever to run for office.

Even doing this wouldn't change much though. The popularity contest not at all based on policy would still reign supreme and American voters are still American voters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

we are passed the ballot box.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The key work here is "act'' like an actor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll come up with a nifty hashtag like #resist or #democracy

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And send out even more fundraising emails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Hey, Obamna here, I need about $3.50.

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