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Flight path of a plane that took off from Damascus shorty after news broke that Assad left the city towards unknown destination, which might have been Latakia on Syrian coast which is still under SAA control as of now. Terrain in place where flightradar stopped tracking that plane isn't especially suited for emergency landing

Shortly after crash Syrian Army Command informs officers about fall of the regime https://xcancel.com/Alhadath_Brk/status/1865587913817305454#m

update: it's not spoofed transponder data or controlled landing, locals reported plane crash in the area. rumors so far, but dawn will break soon in Syria and we'll know https://xcancel.com/Schizointel/status/1865593800678130081#m

clarification: there's some chance that Assad went out of Damascus before on other, private jet, so it's not sure and it's all conjecture on unproven information

update 2: there's a claim by Russian media that Assad is in Moscow, so he would have to flee on some earlier plane, but no photos as of now. Still, looked mildly credible at the time

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hope to see trump flee to Russia one day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I hope he doesn't get the chance to abscond and is held accountable for his crimes. Not likely to happen but one can dream.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 1 points 2 days ago

I'm just in it for the complete validation of everything we've been saying for years.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No! No. No-no-no. Take him and Putin as a gift. Volodin says Putin is national treasure.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Good example of why you don't trust internet "journalism."

It's just a rumour until you get confirmation from the AP. People tend to think the mainstream media is hiding things, but it's usually down to them not publishing unconfirmed rumours while the internet will. And here's an example of why that is. Many of these things wind up being false. It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now

Lmao do you know where you are??? This is NCD, I have recklessly violent opinions over shit that only exists in my head.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

*camera pans warthunder arguing over about millimeters of handrail on a 20 year old tank *

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You're giving journalists way to much credit. The Pulitzer Prize was named after a man who started the Spanish American war by making shit up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

you don't have to get AP article for every claim, but it helps. if you can get geolocated footage, that's still a bit better than just rumors, many of these maps work this way. this time a few things were missing

[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know when NCD has actual writeups and citations shit is getting real. Getting Wagner coup vibes, what a time to be alive where we can glimpse into the sausage of geopolitics being made in real time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Idk, it feels a little too credible for me...

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago

this is the kind of superpower that chronic insomnia gets you

join our matrix channel for more noncredible news

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Honestly guys, it's not the first time I got breaking world news from this community and I am disappointed, I thought this was non-credible?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but to be truly non-credible, one must first poses great knowledge and insight.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

"It takes a wise man to be truly stupid"- Sun Tzu

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

The funniest part is it may be days before news starts reporting he was probably on this plane. They'll want to wait for some sort of confirmation, which probably doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

n in ncd stands for news

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can we speed run the Russsian collapse as well?

It’s going to shit me if Putin falls on the 22nd Jan so the orange boofhead can claim the credit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Would he claim credit, or announce a day off mourning?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

Probably both he usually takes both sides on every issue at some point.

At least the balkanisation and collapse of Russia will be a simple thing for such a stable genius to manage.

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[–] feedum_sneedson 33 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I did hear it here first, you're right.

[–] Valmond 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, I heard it first here.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One of the rare cases where I hear of a death and check wikipedia to still see the word "is". I wonder how long confirmation will take.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There may be no changes on the article yet, but there's a lot of ongoing discussion at the Discussion page of the article:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

German Wikipedia already has past tense and a small paragraph about Assad leaving the country for an unknown location.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is it sourced properly? Because killing people on wikipedia without sources isn't helping wikipedia's credibility.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Russia claim he's already in Russia, but I've seen no footage of him yet. It's entirely possible he's in the wreckage.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Today is a day of victory for chins everywhere

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nooooooo you can't break credible news on NCD!!1!!! 😭

NCD: Haha Illusion-76 go brrrrrrr (crash)

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[–] BombOmOm 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah this also

he was done either way as damascus was handed over few hours ago

[–] BombOmOm 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yea, it's amazing how fast this can go down. Been F5ing Live UA map every few hours the last few days and almost every time there were notable changes.

This also cements Russia's loss of their only notable Mediterranean port.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Holy fuck lol. I sorta called it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

well it still could have been friendly fire

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Holy shit! The Russians shot him out of the sky??

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

that would be pretty stupid so it's definitely an option

we can guess that 1. assad was on that plane, and 2. it did something that looked like a bad malfunction and 3. there are rumors of plane crash in the area. maybe it was some stupid reason like mechanical malfunction, or maybe friendly fire from russian S300 at Tartus, or maybe unfriendly fire from whatever SAM HTS now has. or something else

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The plane flew over opposition controlled territory in Homs, and then it started losing altitude very fast. I think the Russians didn't have the chance of doing anything funny this time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I watched that live. The video from the airport a few minutes before was surreal.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

BBC article mentioning this flight. A tweet from FR24 says that the aircraft "was old with an older transponder generation, so some data might be bad or missing", that it was "flying in an area of GPS jamming, so some data might be bad", and that there was not aware of any airports in the area where the signal was lost.

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