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Summary

Elon Musk amplified Senator Mike Lee’s calls to overhaul Social Security, labeling it a “nightmare.”

Lee, known for advocating the elimination of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, criticized the program as deceptive and mismanaged.

Musk, co-chair of Trump’s advisory commission on cutting federal spending, faces accusations of aligning with GOP efforts to privatize or gut Social Security.

Advocacy groups denounce these moves as a threat to seniors and disabled Americans, warning that Republicans aim to shift earned benefits to Wall Street, despite broad public opposition to cuts or privatization.

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[–] RizzRustbolt 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Is it too much to wish that he dies during his next plastic surgery operation?

[–] 4lan 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Apparently corporate assassinations are now on the table, UHC CEO was just murdered on the street with a silencer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Go out and be the change you wanna see! 😂

This could be you!

[–] whotookkarl 33 points 8 hours ago

Any billionaire should be open to a robin hood law, if you're going to violate the social contract so much that it's obliterated and you're no longer subject to law or criminal charges then you should also be exempt from its protections.

[–] TunaCowboy 12 points 7 hours ago

Go ahead, steal my hard earned contributions skum. Let's see how many desperate people you can piss off, we might actually see some real change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Conservatives have been wanting and trying to dismantle the SS since its inception.

I'm not that concerned just yet. There's a reason it's called the third rail of politics.

If I had to bet on the future outcome, they'll raise the contribution cap to around $300k, maybe cut benefits a bit, fixing the solvency problem for at least a generation or two.

I'd also bet on an immigration deal in a future administration. Getting more workers/contributors into the system.

It honestly wouldn't shock me if the Trump admin pivoted to amnesty just like Reagan. He's a lame duck from day one. He's not beholden to anything from the campaign trail. If he's gotta choose the adoration of his voter base vs the donor base, he'll choose the wealthy. He hates being excluded from the elites. You can't buy class. But you can be invited to their parties, their clubs, their scene. His working class base has nothing left to offer him.

[–] krashmo 29 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Modern problems require modern solutions. I'm not advocating anything but I'll leave this here in case anyone has not seen it yet.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/04/us/brian-thompson-united-healthcare-death/index.html

[–] 4lan 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm so happy that these fuckers will be looking behind their back constantly now. They know what they did to us, they know that their greed has a death toll.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I don't advocate violence (except when necessary), but I'm struggling to feel bad about this. I've had almost all major and many minor health insurance providers and UHC was above and beyond the worst, hands down, full stop. Just garbage.

[–] krashmo 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Same. I've been saying for a while that I'm surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more often. All it takes is one person deciding that their problems are a specific company's fault. One can imagine all sorts of reasons for that conclusion to be drawn. Tons of shootings happen for way more trivial reasons too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago

Musk, enemy to mankind, has declared war on everyone.

[–] whostosay 99 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Can we normalize saying "world's greediest man" instead of "world's richest man?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Worlds most successful thief

[–] whostosay 5 points 8 hours ago

Id settle for worlds greediest thief

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Let's normalize the richest being the greediest.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago
[–] cmoney 10 points 8 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 69 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It flabbergasts me that Musk, an unelected billionaire, has any input at all in policy decisions.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Just another day in the post-truth age. This and much more awaits in a society that allows a handful of algorithms unfettered editorial control over what people think.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's just another day in the plutocracy that has probably run things the entire lifetime of "democracy".

The only difference is with MAGA the plutocracy no longer need to hide behind lobbyists, campaign financing, super PAC's, nepotism/cronyism, quid pro quo, virtue signaling about national security, etc to engage in corruption, loot the public coffers, and divert trillions to their own companies or cronies in the MIC or whatever.

The conservative propaganda machine has now successfully groomed and cultivated a mentally ill cult, who will let their king insert a microchip into their brains without a second thought... Hell, they'll probably hand over their life savings for the privilege.

[–] Maggoty 7 points 9 hours ago

Trump's just doing it in the open. Every president has had unelected advisors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Plenty of unelected people have a massive say in policy. We wouldn't get anything done if every bureaucrat had to be elected.

This specific unelected soon-to-be bureaucrat is fucking towel though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This specific unelected soon-to-be bureaucrat is fucking towel though.

Hey now, that's not very fair, towels are at least useful and pretty good at wiping up shit. Phony Stark only ever makes messes and then wallows in the shit.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

So, they plan on stealing the money I've put into it over my 25 year working career?

I know that's not exactly how it works, but yeah it feels like it's theft with extra steps if I never see benefits but had paid into it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Leave my social security alone, you prick. We pay into it, it is not an entitlement. If it is becoming unsustainable, then remove the cap.

These guys hope to make the US become a third world country. They have no idea how bad it can become if there is widespread poverty in America.

[–] EvacuateSoul 8 points 8 hours ago

We pay into it, it is not an entitlement.

It is an entitlement because you pay for it.

The opposite would be means-tested, where you would have to qualify.

[–] fluxion 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure just make sure to send us our refund checks

[–] Wogi 3 points 7 hours ago

Just some quick napkin math puts me at nearly 200,000 dollars in to social security since I started working.

At 4% compounded annually, let's call it 275,000 dollars.

Tax free, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Anyone wanna take bets on when he'll become a trillionare?

Since the election I think his net worth grew from 0.1 to about 0.3 trillion. So at this rate he'll have stolen 1 trillion from others by early 2025, right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

What do they think is going to happen to all those old people who survive on just Social Security? Or disabled people? What do they think will be the attitude of a population that has even less financial and health security?

They are actively trying to create a world that will become much more dangerous for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Easy, they'll just dump us in prisons where we'll be expected to pay for the cost of our involuntary stay. If I lose ssdi I become homeless, which is becoming increasingly illegal

[–] EvilBit 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The classic move is just to fuck over the NEXT batch, so the people drawing from it now are happy to vote Republican. “Fuck you, got mine” at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

My stepmother years ago while sitting in front of her child: "I don't really care about climate change, I'll be dead by then!"

[–] fluxion 4 points 9 hours ago

That's the slick part: they don't expect that you will have any power to ever vote them out of office again so they can do whatever they want! It's that sort of brilliant radical thinking that has energized American voters to put these fascists back in power after their practice run!

[–] Pantsofmagic 19 points 12 hours ago

One of the first thoughts I had with the election result was "welp, there goes my retirement". None of this surprises me even a little

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well, seeing as SSDI is my only source of income, guess I'll die homeless if that gets cut off.

Cool!

[–] ATDA 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Being homeless is also not an option in conservative hell. You'll need to report to your local jail, er slave cen, er employment center!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

So anyway, anyone in a more sane country wanna do a sham marriage?

35 / M / Former DB Admin, Software Engineer

Been told I have a lovely singing voice.

[–] givesomefucks 18 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I'll never understand why billionaires hate OASDI...

The cap means no one pays more than 10.5k this year. That isn't even fucking pocket change to Musk or any billionaire.

[–] disguy_ovahea 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The most powerful people in the US acquired their power from privatizing Social Security in the form of retirement accounts.

The largest retirement account management companies are Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street. They consolidate all of the power of the shares from all of the retirement accounts they manage, to give them board control of 89% of the S&P 500.

Those faceless firms are actually the ones who control the hardship index (price of food, housing, clothing, other essentials) that earned Trump so many “bad economy” votes.

[–] teamevil 8 points 11 hours ago

The Misery index is about to go nuts

[–] [email protected] 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

their love of money overtakes their humanity. they lack empathy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago

They never had any. They also never had any value to the Human race.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

People like him have all the money they could ever need. This is about control, and punishing people they don't like (and those that don't fall in line and lick the boot).

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[–] snekerpimp 15 points 13 hours ago

Musk, the new generation of robber baron

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