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Colten Williams began putting together his Christmas light show a decade ago at the behest of his grandmother, who was inspired by light shows she had seen on TV.

But trouble started brewing in Kingsville after several neighbours lodged complaints about their street being crowded with cars for six weeks every year.

This month, the city enacted a new bylaw that would force the Williams family to apply for a permit for their display while also placing restrictions on the number of hours they would be allowed to leave the lights on.

β€œThey basically limited the amount of hours I could have my show from about 28 hours a week down to 10 hours a week,” Williams said. β€œSo you have 500 hours, 600 hours worth of set up time just to have 40 hours the lights on all month long. That’s an insane amount of work.”

Rogers said the council is sad to see them turn off the lights but said the show had outgrown its location as well.

β€œWe were saddened to learn that the Williams family will not move forward with their light display this year,” he said.

β€œOur discussions with the family last year at a council meeting we both agreed that they had outgrown the neighbourhood.”

Rogers went on to say that the city had tried to work with the family to find an alternative location but was unable to meet their demands.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 38 minutes ago

500 hours, 600 hours worth of set up time

I wish I had one tenth the freetime this person has in their life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I feel like I need to see pics of the parking situation/attendance on the street. Like, yeah.. Lights are fun and that sucks, but also.. this must have been a pretty big fucking problem if it warranted this kind of response. Article says the show would end after 20 minutes and immediately an entirely new crowd would filter in to replace the previous one. Sounds like lot of vehicles waiting to get in to view it in a residential neighborhood not designed for that kind of volume. I'd probably bitch to the council too after several years of enduring that.

[–] FireRetardant 3 points 2 hours ago

And really the big problem here is the cars, 20 cars takes up a lot more space than even 60 people. People could even fit on the lawn if space allows. The cars make noise honking and running, they are the ones with bright lights. If everyone got off a bus, watched a show, and walked to the next stop it wouldn't be nearly as problematic. Perhaps a designated area nearby where cars are expected to park and people and their family could walk to see the show could have been a solution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure there's some particular joy in doing this to your own house, but the city should hire this guy to do a big display in the city centre. Probably more adequate parking, people maybe make a night of it and go to local restaurants, you could pick your place to minimise upsetting neighbours.

[–] Aqarius 7 points 8 hours ago

Honestly, sounds like a traffic enforcement problem.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

"We both agreed they had outgrown the neighbourhood"

What a class act.

I hope they find a better town to show off dem lights.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Buncha Scrooges over there in Kingsville Apparently. Those massive restrictions on hours plus the requirement for a "permit" -cough-moneygrab-cough- are just ridiculous. I'd love for there to be a light show like that in my neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It sounds like people who live around there were taking ridiculous times to get in and out of their houses because of the traffic. This would also be a bad situation for emergency services such as ambulances and firetrucks, potentially.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

So it's a traffic problem, not a capacity problem.

Ban on street parking, direct people to the closest lots. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Over here in Europe we'd just arrive by public transport.

[–] FireRetardant 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yea but Canada refuses to build a functional country. Hell we can't even keep bike lanes installed without drivers feeling attacked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I read about that, and my first thought was that bike lanes adjacent to streets indeed aren't a great thing - but then again, you probably don't have all the bike/pedestrian only paths offering way shorter connections we have here. In the area I live in I can reach pretty much any house by foot within 5-10 minutes - while most of them are only reachable by car with a lengthy detour, if at all.

[–] FireRetardant 2 points 1 hour ago

The lanes weren't the best but they are way better than nothing. Everything must be car accessible here, no exceptions. Cars must always get prioirty. It really is so vastly different you really have to experience it to understand. Standing next to one stroad makes you really ask "how the hell is this the best way to build the majority of places in this country?"

Most of our transit is hourly bus service that is late from the poor roadway network. Most of our stops don't even have shelters. Trams don't have prioirty at lights. It's all so backwards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If it's like the places I grew up, people are driving through neighborhoods. They're not parking, but driving at basically a crawl (sometimes pausing to take pictures). If they enforced local traffic only (i.e. anyone who wanted to see it had to go on foot), that would solve the issue so long as the parking exists somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

It's not. It's a 17-minute show timed to music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIuS2NHH_k

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Permits are agreements with a processing fee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

Contracts require an exchange of "considerations." Payment is a consideration.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

How bad was the car situation that prompted this level of intervention?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How is this not the onion?!

[–] skeezix 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because you dont live there and it’s not you being inconvenienced. So you have no sympathy for the neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I have sympathy for the neighbours, I don't have sympathy for the people with the lights who are ridiculous