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[–] blackbelt352 101 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not just hamlet but the entire body of works accredited to Shakespeare

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (4 children)

damn, that monkey must be pretty prolific, perhaps even rivaling Shakespeare! Do we know their name?

[–] ChilledPeppers 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The name of the kid: Shakespeare

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

and everymonkey clapped.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Christopher Marlowe

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 5 points 2 months ago

I thought they were written by a Klingon.

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[–] someguy3 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not on a typewriter though. Task failed successfully.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pretty sure some other monkey did tho

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We're apes though.

Great ones even!

[–] Pegajace 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apes are monkeys, in the same sense that humans are apes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not entirely sure that statement is correct, but it's been a while since I took any anthropology courses...

Edit: I was wrong and remembered the tree incorrectly.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Family tree of primates. As you can see, old world monkeys and new world monkeys share their last common ancestor with the apes. That means that phylogenetically, that if they are both monkeys, then so are all the apes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

You are factually correct, the best kind of correct!

[–] Tyfud 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It is correct. I've been corrected on this before and did the research to discover I was wrong. Humans are Monkeys.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

One of us even wrote:

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.

One of us even wrote this!

[–] HKPiax 17 points 2 months ago

The monkeys are really the friends we make along the way

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As the saying goes

An infinite number of multicellular organisms with an infinite number of writing utensils will eventually reproduce a recognizable literary work

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 2 months ago

A more pithier way of putting it is that we are the universe experiencing itself.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A monkey wrote Hamlet. It got mediocre reviews.

[–] Decoy321 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was the BLURST OF TIMES?!?

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[–] ceenote 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're apes, not monkeys, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We’re both. Apes are a subset of old world monkeys.

e: sorry, old, not new

[–] Num10ck 5 points 2 months ago

simiiformes / simians

[–] LordWiggle 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

And you don't start sentences with capital letters.

[–] LouNeko 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's better than capitalizing Random Words because you think it Looks Cool and it will Make America Great Again!

[–] LordWiggle 5 points 2 months ago

Or to write some WORDS completely in CAPITAL letters to CREATE disgusting CLICKBAIT titles.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 6 points 2 months ago

Not endless, i guarantee it.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 4 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Hamlet is a remake of and Old Norse legend Amleth.

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[–] GladiusB 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Didn't some math nerd prove that they would need more time than exists in the universe to make this happen?

[–] ameancow 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's been calculated many times, and yes, it would take an absurdly long amount of time, and that's the point. When dealing with infinities, time is irrelevant, whether you have infinite monkeys or one monkey and infinite time, they will still both do every possible thing a monkey could do.

In fact, infinite monkeys would not only write Hamlet, they would write it instantly, an infinite number of times, and in all possible languages, as well as the possible sequel where Marvel's Blade shows up to fight vampires. Instantly.

Good luck finding them though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, they wouldn't write it instantly - in the best case, they would start writing it instantly, and finish in optimal time. However, it's possible that no monkey would actually write it on the first try - we'd have to get into some complex predictions on monkey brains and physiology, it's possible that with their brains and muscle structure they wouldn't go for the kinds of character sequences to produce Hamlet, perhaps changing up patterns enough to produce something more random only after a certain amount of time.

Depending on how you formulate the experiment, it could be that no monkey could finish it before physiologically having to take a break or something, returning to specific patterns afterwards that would render it impossible for it to finish writing Hamlet, and thus no monkey would ever write Hamlet in a continuous string of characters, from start to end.

But yeah, if we just say they're typing completely random characters without pause forever, yup, infinity dictates some fraction of monkeys would immediately be on the right track and finish writing as soon as possible, for anything you can think of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That only is true with limited amounts of monkeys. A million might not do it in the first try, but an infinite amount would mean one of those monkeys at least would do it first try. Which monkey that is is just as absurd as asking when it will happen when we use infinite time instead.

Is the point of these logic memes to illustrate the properties of infinity or to prove a point about what can or cant be done though?

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[–] undergroundoverground 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

100% and you probably know this, so I'm just addin: think of infinity as a sequence of infinite numbers. The number of all the even numbers, that stretch off into infinity, are also infinite. However, that infinite number isn't as big as regular infinity.

You can have different sizes of infinity because when things get that big, the rules change. Its almost like infinity / 2 = smaller infinity.

[–] AngryCommieKender 9 points 2 months ago

No. They proved it would take a finite number of monkeys longer than there is time in the universe. Not sure what the point of that paper was, since the theory involved an infinite number of monkeys.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They obviously weren't very good at math if it already happened.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, my God, I was wrong, It was Earth all along!

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