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[–] Burn_The_Right 143 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Conservatives frequently refer to themselves as centrists or neither. In the U.S., it is obvious someone is a right wing asshat if they claim to be centrist or neither.

"bOtH sIdEz r EqUaLlY bAd!!!"

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

If they were really centrist they'd vote democrat anyway, as that's the centrist party.

Many leftists also vote democrat. Lesser of two evils, a two party system, no ranked choice voting, etc. etc. etc. etc.

[–] jungekatz 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well america does not have a real left tbh ! Many people think of socialism as left wing while it is the economic center , someone supporting social left policies like lgbt rights can be considered liberal , but they can still be against universal healthcare or other socialist polices and then votes dem , coz they are liberal!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's crazy. I noticed this on dating sites. I live in a red area, but I ONLY would see "other" or "centrist" I think I could count on one hand how many people I saw actually say they were conservative.

Naturally they all had their identity set as "free thinkers..."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

the "enlightened centrist" lol. that's my mom, who calls Trump the "lesser of two evils"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Same in Germany. To call yourself Right in Germany is, well, we had a very right wing government and we swore "never again".

So the conservatives are center, the liberals are center, the social Democrats aren't really left anymore and self identify as center and the same is with the green party. There is one party called The Left and they obviously identify as left but can't agree on what that means. And the far right party (AfD) calls themselves Conservative.

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[–] LovingHippieCat 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a step grandfather who is super far right but insists he’s a democrat and that he’s the only true democrat in the family since he was elected as a democrat judge in a rather conservative area in Ohio in the 80s or 90s. He has also said the only thing he can do to save the country is to vote for crazy fascist republicans. Insists he knows how to run a government better than everyone in the family as well all because he was a judge.

One of my favorite thing to do with him is talk about something that impacts me and not tell him that it impacts me directly until after he’s been super shitty about it. Once I say it impacts me he then backtracks and tries to say that he still fully believes in the things he believes in but that he didn’t mean me, he meant the other ones. That my situation was different for no reason. He’s a piece of shit who my family expects me to respect, but I have many times purposefully been disrespectful because someone like him deserves negative respect.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, he may actually be a democrat, just a historic one. Their 'roles' were kind of reversed compared to today until somewhere in the last century if my outside knowledge of US political history serves right.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The flip came with Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act and then Goldwater and Nixon capitalizing on racists' anger about it with the Southern Strategy.

[–] LovingHippieCat 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s basically what he is. I’ve never talked to him about the party switch and it’d be an interesting and probably very frustrating situation.

That said, you mentioning that has given me an idea about what to say the next time he says he’s a democrat so thank you for that!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Ah, a Strom Thurmond Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (11 children)

More accurately, I would say these types react to someone criticizing the status quo, which is typically right wing. These types are usually sheltered white guys who have had very few problems with the status quo because, well, they're white men.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot rich, no matter colour as long as you are rich

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"I don't like the Right or the Left!" only criticizes the Left

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (45 children)

People that claim themselves to be centrists in this economy, are either plain stupid or republicunts in disguise.

Yes, they are not mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Or enlightened democrats who understand there party is the actual center and that workers aren't represented outside of Bernie and AOC

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Spain, when someone says "I'm neither left or right", that person is on the right, most of the time (if not always).

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, same in America most of the time. Funny it's often the right-wing that wants to pretend that they are "center" and/or are too afraid to say they are right-wing. It's like they know...

Also centrists are just people who like the status quo which always benefits the people in power.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like the very idea of "centrist" is flawed. Sure you can choose not to identify with either party.

But for most of these issues you can't reasonably pick a "center" option for most issues. Sure we can argue implementation but you're either ok with abortion, gun control, gay rights, civil rights, or your not.

Is it really useful to have the "control guns" and "control guns only a little" groups fighting when there's a "school kids are a worthy sacrifice for guns" party?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This internet version of centrism that everyone hates on is bizarre to me, for the reasons you say - the "only commit half a genocide" type of centrism. Are there people who really strike a middle ground on every issue on principle?

I always understood centrism as "I hold enough opinions from both parties that I don't align with either one", which honestly fits me pretty well. I still have strong opinions on individual issues though...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not pro life nor pro choice I think everyone should be able to do what they want!

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[–] blue_zephyr 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Centrism is when you pretend that the screams of oppressed trans people mean exactly the same to you as the chants of the nazis prosecuting them, but deep down you know you're actually a nazi too.

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[–] jungekatz 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is literally my flatmate , calls himself centrist , but would blame left wing media for showing the truth because the news hurt a RW sentiment !

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[–] marx2k 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The meme character is frustrated at "the the", yes?

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