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[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Vance’s mother was able to buy private insurance through the Affordable Care Act’s insurance marketplace, run by Ohio, after overcoming substance abuse, becoming financially stable, and earning too much to stay on Medicaid.

[–] MrVilliam 80 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The interesting thing is that I'm not sure anybody gives a shit that his mom got help through the ACA. The story here is that he can't show any level of gratitude for the thing that has helped his own mother because he's such a partisan piece of shit. The ACA sucks, but healthcare in this country was a complete dumpster fire before it passed, and it will return to being a complete dumpster fire if it's repealed without a more expansive replacement in place.

This wouldn't be a story if Medicaid didn't have means testing attached which is how she lost eligibility. This wouldn't be a story if JD would show thanks for the healthcare plan modeled after what a Republican governor put together, but that would be perceived as disloyalty to his toddler-brained master. This wouldn't be a story if there were universal healthcare as there should be. He's between a rock and a hard place because he's too spineless to swallow his pride and show humanity even regarding the health of his own mom. Fucking pathetic.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ACA only sucked cause Republicans blocked every attempt to address the faults and issues that only became apparent after rolling it out.

[–] MrVilliam 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. It was a half measure. Some action was desperately needed, and Republicans made sure that exactly some action was taken. They whine about the world passing us by while ensuring that we're unable to catch up.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It wasnt a half measure.

Its just, when you roll out a revolutionary change in the way things are done, like the ACA was, there are going to be issues that pop up after rollout that no one could predict.

Which is why you need follow up legislation to address those unpredictable holes/cracks/issues.

and unfortunately the only way thats gonna happen is with a supermajority of democrats who have the cajones to just ram the shit through without playing games and without trying to get the republicans involved, because the republicans will stop at nothing to prevent anything they see as a "win" for democrats, no matter how much misery and suffering it causes the American people. They'll watch their own mothers suffocate to death from preventable disease rather than let the dems have a "win".

and to top off the absolute miserable bastardry, they'll then run campaign ads for the next 12 months talking about how democrats are mother-smotherers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

and unfortunately the only way thats gonna happen is with a supermajority of democrats who have the cajones to just ram the shit through without playing games and without trying to get the republicans involved

Do even Dems talk about further improvements or tiptoeing any closer to single payer these days? It has been seeming to me the insurance lobby has things sewn up pretty tight.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

She bought healthcare from Obama? 😮

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We all know under Trumps concepts of a plan she would get super extra special care. In other words she would be dumped on skid row and bankrupt.

[–] Death_Equity 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'll be damned if my tax dollars are going to fly her to LA under that plan.

[–] someguy3 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] AutistoMephisto 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. Every city in America will have a skid row. Ever seen the movie "District 9"? They kinda want that for America's homeless and immigrants

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, Trump concept care doesn't even provide for name brand?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Look, every city has a Skid Row, and L.A.'s is the largest, but Seattle actually owns that term because they were a logging town, and pioneer square was where loggers used skids to pull cut logs from the bay ("skid road").

[–] _number8_ 78 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

it's ridiculous how much we jerk off to being the greatest country in the world ever but we can't even have this basic quality of life feature that so many other countries have made work. fucking israel has universal healthcare! what a pathetic empire

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As someone who grew up outside the US, I can tell you that every developed country in the world casts itself as the greatest country on earth. Now, all of those countries, except the US, have most of the basics down, so there's that.

[–] madcaesar 18 points 2 weeks ago

I have lived in 5 countries and the USA is the only one that claims this we're the greatest bullshit all the time.

Every country loves itself, but the USA is psychotic about it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

every developed country in the world casts itself as the greatest country on earth

Not Germany.

For once.

And for the time being.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda hard ti claim to be the greatest when youre stilling digging up bombs from when everyone else disagreed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Germans are complainers by nature. But when you look at what they get up to when they think they're better than everyone else, it's probably better that way.

[–] barnaclebutt 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's also ridiculous how much we jerk off to being the greatest country in the world but a man cannot admit to making sweet love to a couch.

[–] hakunawazo 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That... was oddly specific - and hillarious.

[–] barnaclebutt 0 points 2 weeks ago
[–] A_Random_Idiot 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hey, thats all the more reason for us not to have it.

We're America, god damnit. American Exceptionalism demands we pave a different path. A rugged path. Like the men of the wild west! We cant use the same idea everyone else has, thats just filthy socio-communism!

/s

[–] aesthelete 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

We’re America, god damnit. American Exceptionalism demands we pave a different path. A rugged path.

A path directly toward the cliff edge and then straight off of it into the ravine below!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thelma and Louise is the Great American Movie.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't worry, you'll be fine as long as you don't look down!

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 2 weeks ago

We’re America, god damnit. American Exceptionalism demands we pave a different path. A rugged path. Like the men of the wild west! We cant use the same idea everyone else has, thats just filthy socio-communism!

You're kidding, but the arguments I have heard against better healthcare in this country boil down to pretty much this.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We’re still waiting on Trumps plan right? Probably too difficult for him to think about the needs of others.

[–] Eldritch 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We're waiting for even a concept of a plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

And he supposedly had concepts... plural. Really unfair of him to not even release a concept.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

He’ll release it in two more weeks *[TM]

[–] FoolishObserver 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right after his tax returns

[–] MrVilliam 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] fluckx 5 points 2 weeks ago

Look there's a concept of a plan alright!?

[–] aesthelete 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And his evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.

[–] thermal_shock 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It’s the same “2 weeks” Elon has been using for “fULL sELf dRiviNg” since 2016.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's going to have one of Elon's autonomous cars deliver it. Should arrive any year now.

[–] ilinamorato 5 points 2 weeks ago

It'll be on the first Starship from Mars.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, your mom is still alive?

You've been claiming Mexicans killed her by forcing her to take drugs (When in reality she was a nurse that stole controlled substances)

Man, fuck this guy.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He meant his other mom.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Using your own mother as a false political point is disgusting.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least he didn't claim Haitians ate his mom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Haitians did eat his moms pussy though so I see how he got confused.

[–] madcaesar 3 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't even crack the top 100 of the disgusting shit Republican politicans have done.

[–] capital_sniff 23 points 2 weeks ago

Amazing a right winger taking advantage of the social safety net they spend all their time trying to destroy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I swore he had a comprehensive plan in 2016. Where did that go?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

What's the Thai flag doing in the background?