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[–] [email protected] 285 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sometimes you don't need to fill the silence with sounds. I'd rather be in a relationship with someone that we can sit down and be quiet together

[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Or you can use literal sounds instead of words. My spouse and I have this thing going on where we make this kind of squeak/baloon sound with our mouth which has the same effect as "hi, nice to see you".

[–] voracitude 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh thank god my partner and I aren't the only ones. Don't get me wrong, we know and like that we're weird, but it's nice to have company.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hahahaha I love hearing about other people’s microcultures

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 207 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The key to understanding is finishing the sentence.

"I hate small talk... with people I have no reason to talk to and don't care about."

I love my partner, and even when it's small talk I can listen all day, just to hear their voice and learn a little more about them, to feel closer to the person I married in many small ways.

But I don't care about what Jim at the laundry mat did last weekend, or which machine he thinks makes socks dry faster.

[–] CuddlyCassowary 63 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I kinda want to know about the sock thing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you're a small talk person

[–] spankmonkey 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Sock drying speed is important information, not time filler like the weather or sports.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

And Jim may have evidence to support his claim. This is important.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But small talk is what got you your wife. What if Jim can be your future if you just gave him the time

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Its only "small talk" if you dont actually care about what the other person says. If you are genuinely interested, then its just a conversation. Thats how i see it at least.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago

Yeah, this. Talking small is faking interest. I'm not good at that. But when I actually care about the other person, "what have you been up to" is meaningful. Cause I actually wanna know.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 94 points 3 months ago (32 children)

Wife and I have a longstanding argument over whether free-will exists.

I say it does and she has no choice but to say otherwise.

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[–] FlyingSquid 65 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I'm able to make smalltalk. I just don't enjoy it, so I avoid it when I can.

And my wife and I don't engage in smalltalk. We talk about what we actually care about. Seems to have worked fine for the past 24 years.

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[–] yokonzo 61 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not small talk if you love the other person

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (5 children)

We will sit in comfortable silence together.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Comfortable silence. Learn to appreciate it.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My wife is a VERY quiet person. She doesn't say a lot but when she does it's because she actually has something to say. This made me nervous when we were first dating but I've learned to embrace it. Silence is OK. She definitely talks more than she used to but we don't have to talk all the time. Sometimes she just looks at me and smiles without saying anything and in those moments I know that I am loved.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (5 children)

My interest in talking has more to do with who I'm talking to and less to do with the subject of conversation

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Imagine going through a marriage like "how about that weather"

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[–] AeonFelis 37 points 3 months ago

I'd like to have similar interactions with my significant other to the ones I have with my cats. You know, things like siting on the couch together... saying silly things in even sillier voices... staring into each other's eyes while blinking slowly... yelling at her to get down from the cupboard...

[–] LANIK2000 35 points 3 months ago

If my partner can't handle silence, then there's something seriously wrong. We usually have something to do and if we don't we just cuddle up. There's no need for constant noise.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Pretty sure being in a long term relationship means you’ve moved on from small talk a long time ago.

I don’t want to talk with my wife about the weather, we have more important shit to worry about unless we’re literally having to dodge a tornado.

Small talk is for strangers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yup. And if we don't have anything more important to talk about, we'll just cuddle. Silence is absolutely fine with people you're comfortable with.

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[–] yemmly 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if I told you: People who hate small talk only have meaningful relationships. It’s the shallow relationships they lack.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It would be hell to come home to someone who only wanted to talk about the weather and how those jockstraps are doing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

how those jockstraps are doing

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think there's a misconception regarding what counts as small talk. "Bland conversation that has no real point but to escape silence" is small talk. Asking you how your day went because I care about you is not. "How's the weather?" is small talk. "How was your trip to the grocery?" is small talk. These are dumb things and, if your relationship can't bear the silence that would be interrupted because "The vegan sausages were on sale today", then it prolly doesn't need to exist.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I'm not entirely sure what counts as small talk. When I think of it, it's usually conversation between strangers or acquaintances where neither party knows the safe topics, the topics to be avoided, or even the general preferences of the other. It's all testing water stuff.

I think that's what people actually mean when they say they hate small talk. They hate the awkwardness of not yet knowing enough about their interlocutor to know they won't accidentally upset anyone. Or they don't have the skill to navigate that social space to avoid negative consequences. It can feel downright dangerous in some circumstances.

And that's tough. Because the socialites think it's a skill issue, which it often is. And unfortunately if you don't learn that skill growing up, the social consequences of being bad at small talk only get bigger and more dangerous, which prevents folks from being able to practice freely.

I dunno. Just my $.02 I guess.

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[–] PugJesus 24 points 3 months ago

Remind me never to get into a sustained meaningful relationship then.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Small talk by definition is useless drivel. I don’t build relationships on that…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I dont know how to make small talk so i just learned to make really good goat noises

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can talk about ideas on what to do in the bedroom or kitchen instead of the weather. My girlfriend and I talk about the nature of the universe and consciousness quite often.

[–] edgemaster72 19 points 3 months ago

My inability to carry even a basic conversation is just one of many reasons I have no plan to be in any kind of relationship, sustained or not, meaningful or not

[–] Smoogs 19 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I always took it as an early red flag that the person is way too intense and stressful to be around if every conversation has to be a do or die dynamic.

[–] P00ptart 18 points 3 months ago (12 children)

It's not that it has to be that exciting. Just don't talk endlessly about shit that doesn't matter. You bought a new kind of mustard, I don't need a 20 minute explanation on why. To me, someone who can't exist without noise, or making noise is a red flag. That being said, early on in the relationship is different because you're still trying to get to know them.

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[–] Clbull 17 points 3 months ago

I've seen women like that on dating apps. Claim to hate small talk, include in their bio that if you just open with "hi" they'll unmatch you, and then when you put some thought into actually writing a response, ask a leading question about their interests or what they wrote in their profile, they unmatch you anyway.

#thisiswhyyouresingle

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

personally im a firm believer in the shut the fuck up and be quiet camp.

Who cares if you talk. If you have something to talk about, talk about it, if not, don't it's that simple.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

How did everyone take this post to mean that you should only do small talk with your partner and not have deeper conversations?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I think this was written by someone who isn't comfortable with extended periods of silence with their partner.

My wife and I barely speak or communicate nonverbally for hours sometimes, then talk at great length other times. We always give each other an opportunity to talk about our day or whatever else is important, but we don't talk about trivial things simply for the sake of talking. We're comfortable with silence.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Ha, jokes on them! I haven't been in a relationship in about a decade and I don't see that ever changing so I don't need small talk!

...wait. Who's the joke on?

:P

[–] adam_y 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Someone once pointed out to me that what I consider small talk might be someone else's important.

Sure it might seem like gossip or chat about the weather just for the sake of talking but it can equally be someone trying to say that they are lonely and need reassurance.

I think about that a lot and I've become a lot more tolerant. Besides, you can segue into some pretty big chat from such humble starts.

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[–] El_guapazo 14 points 3 months ago

They seem ritualistic social interactions. Like some bird's courtship dance except there's no relationships interest. So it's just a burden that I didn't want to participate in unless I have a genuine friendship.

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