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[–] barsquid 362 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Anyone else remember when new technology used to be fun and exciting instead of miserable?

[–] [email protected] 120 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Long gone are the days when I used be excited to read update notes for new features... Now I just hope they don't god damn force an update on me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I went back to an old APK of Twitch and refuse to update to the current dumpster fire.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Somewhere along the line, maybe the early to mid 2000's they stopped making products "for" the end-user and flipped it around so the end-user (their data) is now the product, and the customers are governments, corporations, and share holders.

[–] omarfw 31 points 2 months ago

Because those shareholders (billionaires) and corporations drained the consumers of all of their money and now they're the most profitable demographic to market to.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

That's part of the reason why new community oriented projects are way more interesting to me now than most software. There are some outliers in the space who still have dedicated people in their craft rather than for money but it is fewer and farther between.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Soon: when you pause a video, it starts playing a video ad with audio, to make sure no silence time gets wasted from your speakers.

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4 70 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And your speakers are on subscription plans that charge you for every second that they play noise. Better upgrade to the next tier if you want to listen to anything else!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's fine, the ad co struck a deal with speaker co to not bill for those sound-seconds.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind 146 points 3 months ago (2 children)

God I hope my adbock holds up......

[–] mesamunefire 120 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it doesn't goodbye Youtube. I love the creators, but hate you as a platform.

[–] TheTechnician27 67 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, uBlock Origin not working would take me from liking YouTube a fair bit to making it unusable.

  • I use Proton but keep legacy Gmail accounts around to ensure I still have access to accounts I may have forgotten about or people I knew a long time ago sending a stray email. The only other usage is logging into YouTube.
  • I use a Captcha solver extension.
  • I use uBlock Origin to block all their ads.
  • I don't use their DNS.
  • I use DDG over their search engine and Firefox over their browser.
  • I don't use Google Drive or their office suite (I think the latter is abysmal to use tbf).
  • I use DeepL over Translate.
  • I use NewPipe for YouTube on mobile and have a subscription to Nebula.
  • I no longer use Google Maps, opting for OSM instead.
  • I still use Android and unfortunately can't unlock the bootloader but have degoogled as far as I know how, including never even registering a Google account with it (F-Droid + Aurora Store).

YouTube is far and away the biggest means by which I interact with Google, and that falls off a cliff if I'm forced to interact with a mess of their ridiculously shitty ads every time I have to use it. uBO has likely saved hundreds of hours of watching ads over my lifetime (and probably thousands of dollars from not being subconsciously influenced by ads), and I'm not paying a subscription fee to such an unethical company to get rid of the ads. This would bring me from YouTube as a timewaster to YouTube only as strictly necessary. Even though I don't support them directly through ads, I do support them by supporting creators I like monetarily, by sharing links and maintaining the network effect, and by giving them plenty of metadata by interacting with their service. If they do this, they ensure that I continue to monetarily support competitors like Nebula and permanently lose a grip they've had on me since I was a kid.

[–] takeda 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Captcha solver add-on? Had no idea about that. If a captcha can be solved this way, why is still being used? What's the point?

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[–] linearchaos 33 points 3 months ago (12 children)

If it doesn't I will make something that records the entire f****** stream and removes the commercials out of it the old fashioned way If I have to. Not my first rodeo.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yt-DLP and it's variation (Seal, YTDLnis, etc.), newpipe and it's variation (Tubular, Newpipe Sponsorblock, etc) already allow you to do this without having to get manual.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Like way to kill your platform for anything educational where you want to pause to look at a graph.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What if you paused so you could see something? You're not allowed to read that text in the background because ads

[–] Jeffool 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Great point. I already find this to be a problem with the recommendations that pop up when paused, and the end-video elements they throw over everything despite having that turned off everywhere I can find it. It's all so dumb. Just so damn dumb.

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[–] Kyrgizion 80 points 2 months ago (9 children)

This already happened. People looking up CPR instructions because a loved one is dying, only to be met with three unskippable ads.

Goodbye Meemaw.

[–] LordWiggle 21 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that may be so, but priorities man. Priorities! Think of our profits man! In this harsh economy, ever ad counts! We're only controlling 90% of the internet while we strive for 100%. That's 10% short. 10%! We only had a revenue of 305 billion in 2023 which is not nearly enough to cut down on ads. Billionaire lives matter man! Come on, everybody, say it all together: Make millionaires billionaires again! Billionaires first! Meemaws don't consume enough anyway. Screw her. By the way, want some penis enlargement pills?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago

And good people argue how adblock and sponssrblock are fair game for your shitty company practices

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (9 children)

It's excellent that alternatives and ad blockers do exist but we need regulatory action to hold companies accountable for things that are designed to worsen user experience to pressure people into paying. It's also a serious accessibility issue, to increasingly have everything be bright and loud and motion filled and unpausable all the time. This trend goes beyond YouTube and it sucks, we need to regulate this nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Are they so dumb They don't realize that when we pause a video we are likely not watching or even near our fucking phone or screen at that time?

[–] Drusenija 46 points 2 months ago

They do, they're probably just hoping the advertisers don't and keep paying for more ad space.

[–] chonglibloodsport 19 points 2 months ago

They don’t care. If the advertisers pay for that spot then they make money! This has been the story with TV ads for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] woelkchen 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather see them on pause screen than interrupting the playback but because we can't have any nice things, interruptions will also only get worse.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guarantee you google isn't interested in showing you one or the other. They want the revenue from both. My only question is, if you pause an ad, can you get another ad in your ad?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Don't most YouTubers make more money with their own sponsorships than from YT ads? Can we start the mass migration to PeerTube already?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I don't think Peertube would handle mass migration of Youtube creators, unless each and every one of them set up their own instance.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I wonder what made their leadership continue to escalate into increasingly bullshit decisions. What happens if I need to pause because I need my PC to be quiet so I can address something and still an ad suddenly starts playing, completely interrupting what I wanted to address in a completely intrusive way? I'll tell you what happens, I'll either find some way to disable that from happening, switch to a service that doesn't do it if I can, or just begin avoiding it all together.

Brilliant planing, YouTube. Whoever has been left as its leadership is a dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention it'll push more people towards using Adblockers. And since chrome is cracking down on Adblockers as well, people start using another browser altogether. It seems like Google is self-sabotaging with these kind of decisions.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Whoever has been left as its leadership is a dumbass.

Not in the slightest. More likely their annual bonus depends on boosting revenue right now. So they're incentivised to generate short term increases in revenue but not for longer term. Plus, also, if/when Youtube goes tits up they'll just get a different CEOing job (with "increased revenue by 25% in 2024 on their resume") rinse and repeat.

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[–] danc4498 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just gonna say I hate this when other apps do this. I pause cause I need to concentrate on something else. Showing an ad just makes that even harder. Now I have to pause AND close the app.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

not if you use ublock origin or newpipe

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Bruh, it's no more a multimedia player, it's a advertising screen.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

I use uBlock Origin and haven't seen a YouTube ad in 6 years, I cannot imagine trying to watch videos that try to show advertisements in the middle of them, lol. It's why I download all the TV and Movies I watch too. Advertisements are for people who, don't know how to silence them, the lazy, and those got guilted into allowing themselves to be brainwashed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"We need to make double the money"

  • Google
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[–] Suavevillain 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] turmacar 25 points 2 months ago

For that they're waiting on the paperwork to go through with Apple.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's like all the sci-fi stories of ads everywhere

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