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Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.

Donald Trump is so feral and narcissistic, so unrestrained and so outside the norm of American politics, that he’s difficult to debate. It’s disorienting. Very few people have been able to stand up to him without being pulled into the muck. In the past, even when he lost debates on points, he dominated his opponents.

But on a Tuesday night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris cracked the code.

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[–] Fedizen 13 points 6 days ago

It was super effective. I am surprised he didn't faint

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I recognize the feral and narcissistic paragraph from somewhere else. Source for this?

[–] Ensign_Crab 191 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump was always broken. Harris just drew attention to it in the right way.

[–] pyre 89 points 1 week ago (2 children)

no but she really hacked him like a cyberpunk runner.

the issue of immigration is her worst and his best polling issue. so when she was answering that question she added this part about crowds leaving his rallies early. the moderator moved past that and almost helped him by refocusing the question on immigration but he just couldn't let it go. he not only focused on the crowd remark, but also went immediately unhinged, screaming about people eating cats.

it's like a fucking cheat code. look at his reaction to her saying people have early. it's like the sound the game makes to let you know the cheat code is activated.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right? Such an obvious trap and he jumped into it, head first. Fascinating to see

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To attack a narcissist, you need to attack the cracks in the reality they paint for themselves.

It just so happens that as someone who has been an enthusiastic and professional grade debater for 40+ years, Harris also knew exactly how to do this without getting his mud on herself, and she knew to do it just as he was hoping to hit his stride.

It was great to watch. So many politicians from so many walks of life have been completely humiliated by Trump's ridiculous persona. He's so inflammatory, so full of lies, and so narcissistic professional politicians have been reduced to flinging his poo back at him. Instead Harris made him wallow in it.

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[–] Landless2029 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Holy crap she got me too!

I didn't realize she pulled out that bait on the immigration issue! That was calculated as fuck!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yea, I feel like I didn't see anything new from him. Kamala just lead him around like a dog on a leash, and exposed it better than anyone else has.

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[–] Rapidcreek 158 points 1 week ago (11 children)

One thing I've come to believe is that the extended media reaction to a debate affects public opinion more than the debate itself. The media don't quite dictate viewers' judgments, but they shape and solidify them. And what this string of posts is making clear is that on the day after Donald Trump is still losing the debate. He's probably going to try to stage some dramatic bullshit to derail this media train.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Very astute observation. I think the only thing I disagree with is that I personally think the media do to a large extent directly dictate viewers judgements. Which makes the rest of your points even more salient.

[–] Zombiepirate 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's going to eat a live dog to prove how hawrable it is.

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[–] NineMileTower 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That motherfucker been broke.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He should resign. Clearly he isn't capable.

[–] krashmo 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Resign from what, life? I'm on board that's just an odd phrasing

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[–] kmartburrito 57 points 1 week ago

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] Makeitstop 50 points 1 week ago

On that stage we saw the two things most capable of utterly destroying Trump: A prosecutor, and Trump.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

She should have mentioned his tiny little hands after shaking them - dude has such a LDE vibe, I bet he'd have lost his shit.

[–] EtherWhack 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

She's more mature than to stoop down to his level and ridicule someone's appearance or anything like that. The handshake was enough to get to him and plant that seed, a complete and total power move.

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[–] twistypencil 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did nobody notice the moment when he tried to silence her and added, 'sound familiar' to make some sexist remark about telling women to shut up? "I'm talking now, sound familiar?"

[–] TheKracken 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

She said "I'm speaking" to shut up pence in the 2020 debate. That's what he was referring to. Still he's a dick.

[–] elliot_crane 9 points 6 days ago

It’s genuinely so amusing how badly that little dig backfired on him. I’ve seen other people also not realizing he was trying to riff on “I’m speaking”. The thing he failed to realize is that essentially any professional women that were watching have likely heard that kind of shit from an older man at some point in their career, and it makes him look like (more of) a complete asshole.

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[–] molten 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wish I could read the article.

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