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[–] spicytuna62 125 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

For those who don't know, Martian solar eclipses suck compared to ours. The near equal relative size of the sun and moon to Earth is why we get such awesome eclipses.

Perks of having a planet-sized object slam into your planet during its Hadean Eon.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 40 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Phobos is just not very aesthetically constructed.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] pyre 9 points 3 months ago

i thought the only thing we were supposed to phobic of was phobos itself

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wife: “Does this dress make me look fat?” Me, a discerning scientist: “You’re just not very aesthetically constructed.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

See, that's fine the first time it happens. But after a couple of iterations you should have enough experimental data to know the answer that means you don't have to sleep on the couch.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Especially after we sent our space marines there to kill all those demons.

[–] samus12345 6 points 3 months ago

Only one will actually get the job done, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Space potato.

[–] kautau 25 points 3 months ago

You can't fool me, those are just the cookie monster's eyes

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Since our moon is moving away from us we’ll have these sorts of eclipses in the future. The fact that we’re living at a time when they’re the same apparent size is pretty amazing.

[–] IndiBrony 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine eclipses in the very early ages of life on land. It would be like Pitch Black.

[–] bitjunkie 6 points 3 months ago

The creatures in Pitch Black had a more equitable society, prove me wrong

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Americans are insane. I don't want to stereotype, but who the fuck needs a burger the size of a car?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had lots of cars the size of burgers though, when I was a little child

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[–] debil 2 points 3 months ago

I mean it's almost the size of that apartment building in the back.

(Or is it fore? Never quite grok'd any of that perspective stuff...)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Is flat earth still a thing? I haven’t been hearing as much about it lately but maybe people just stopped caring.

I do wonder how long a movement that can be easily disproven by literally anyone can sustain itself. I mean sure, the true believers will stay but if anyone can go out and confirm the roundness of the earth themselves it makes it a bit tough to keep people who are on the fence…

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

I think the vast majority of promoters online were trolls, and the vast majority of followers were morons

[–] davidgro 21 points 3 months ago

They moved on to qanon. That's not even a joke.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You haven't heard as much from them because they are being drowned out by MAGAs. Though, TBF, the overlap between flat earthers and MAGAs is pretty large.

[–] jaybone 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget sovcits. I’m hearing more about them now and less about flat earth.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Sovcits are.... interesting.

There's an aspect of their philosophy that I get. Like there is a sort of magical incantation they say and proof you're immune from the law.

That's sort of how courts work. We're all about precedence, making sure that court rulings from before are applied fairly and equally. Knowing these rulings and how to apply them seems like magic to those of us who aren't attorneys.

And all law and court rulings are text that you can read, right? So anyone should be able to read and recite them, right?

I sort of agree with the logic in the sense that I absolutely hate how any court action almost requires the services of an attorney. No matter how right you are, you still have to spend money to prove it in court.

But the nonsense of not paying any taxes or not being held responsible for your actions....that is where I draw the line.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

There's actually a trip to Antarctica to see the midnight sun funded by globe earthers planned soon. Many flat earthers were invited, but most have chickened out and the rest are hedging their positions with "24 hour sun doesn't mean anything, even if we see it, it doesn't matter".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

A friend of mine got into flat earth. He didn't care about proofs or anything like that. As far as I could tell, he was in it for the community.

[–] Zorque 4 points 3 months ago

All the hype was subsumed by people following cults that actually have an impact on our daily lives.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

actually the part that i am scratching my head at is the sevenfold brighter bit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was curious about this too. From random web searching (Syfy.com), the sun is 200,000 times brighter than the moon in the visible light region of the electromagnetic spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I know human perception is logarithmic. I'm interested why it was thought it was 7x brighter. "Sevenfold as the seven days in one" it seems?

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[–] BeatTakeshi 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is still a wonder of nature though that they appear the exact same size in our sky, allowing perfect eclipses

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a happy coincidence that we get to experience both total and annular solar eclipses. It wasn't always so, and it won't always be so. There was a first annular eclipse, and there will be a final total eclipse.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I never remember which one is the burger eclipse and which the car eclipse

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What is that? A car for ants?

[–] Raxiel 6 points 3 months ago

A burger for Americans

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually still convinced that Flats are just trolling the whole world and pissing their pants from laughing when noone looks.

These things can't be truly real and serious. They can't. No. Nonono.

[–] TheRealKuni 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There’s a fascinating documentary, Behind the Curve. It talks about how, for a lot of these people, it began with the thrill of having some secret knowledge that others don’t, and then found they had a community and felt included for the first time in their lives (for some of them). That sense of community is really important to humans, so now, just like religion, there is more binding people to the movement than just the hidden knowledge.

(If I’m remembering correctly. I may be conflating it, it’s been a while since I watched it.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That actually makes sense and explains best. Extremely sad, but that's probably it. Besides those that just love to troll. Never thought about reason tbh, i was so baffled at the sheer stupidity of it all to see the "good".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of conspiracy theories seem to hinge on the idea that anyone engaging in the theory somehow has access to information that most people don't, at least that's my theory.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Great, now I'm hungry for car : /

[–] LazaroFilm 7 points 3 months ago

Dude thought he was in orthographic view.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Flerfs can't understand scale, they can't understand 3d space, they can't understand distances, they can't understand pretty much anything. The world is scary for them, they deserve our pity AND scorn. If only they paid attention in school

[–] TheRealKuni 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Flerfs can't understand scale, they can't understand 3d space, they can't understand distances, they can't understand pretty much anything. The world is scary for them, they deserve our pity AND scorn. If only they paid attention in school

They certainly deserve our pity. They’re lonely people who were never great in school and now get to think they’re smarter than others AND have found a community that accepts them.

Unfortunately the very pressures that made them susceptible to the flat earth movement and other conspiracies are the same pressures that keep them from accepting that they’re wrong. “Scorn” probably isn’t a useful tool, even if it feels like the right one (and they absolutely deserve it).

The Socratic method would be far more effective. Continue to ask them questions, accepting as a given that they’re intelligent people and treating them as such. Innocently interrogate them, with genuine interest, about the things they are saying until they reason themselves out of their positions.

But this will only work if they’re someone you know, most likely. Otherwise they’re likely to shun you the first time they come across a question that truly shakes their position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. "They're hiding the true shape of the ball, because they don't like god" isn't a reasonable argument. And yet for a lot of Flat Earthers, that's exactly the reason why a lot of them believe the earth is flat "cuz muh bibble sez so".

Believe you me, I have tried the socratic method, but they're much more comfortable with the lies from Eric Dubay's monotonous drone zone, Flatzoid's Perspective's selective editing, Nathan Oakley's daily shouting hour than any real facts. We live in a post fact world, it's all "a matter of opinion" to these flat earth weirdos.

[–] samus12345 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's about the size, where you put your eyes

That's about the size of it!

[–] bitjunkie 7 points 3 months ago

We're dealing with a class of people who genuinely think Sesame Street is a commie psyop

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

how can I calculate the distance at which the sun filled my entire field of view?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Theta = 1/2 human fov

r = radius of sun

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

so simple (and not at all). Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm currently reading "The sword of Dawn" manwha. There, the planet is closer to a low luminosity star, making sunset/rise way bigger.

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