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Not sure where the official announcement of this happened, but videos and discussions of the game are now finally allowed. The game is still invite-only, but expect to start seeing it all over the place now. Popular streamers are already jumping into it.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Having the game streamed by all these huge channels before it's even officially announced is kinda crazy. Everyone wants to play Valve's "secret game" of course, so it's free marketing. Pretty clever.

[–] doodledup 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Valve doing their Valve thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

So Valve specializes in controlling the rate of release?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

There may be more people watching Deadlock than there are watching and playing Concord today based on available data and reasonable extrapolation. Valve continues to market in a unique way that works.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Concord is dead on arrival. Kind of a shame, the game looked a bit interesting but being $40 and having very generic art this was bound to happen. Deadlock is in a whole other league.

[–] Phegan 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. Why would they force you to pay 40 in a genre already overpopulated and most of them are free.

[–] Katana314 2 points 3 weeks ago

It’s basically impossible to increase the price tag on a game like that, and if you go free, the design pivots to a lot of abusive monetization systems. People run into that at the 10th hour of any free game.

It might be failing for a lot of reasons - I don’t think that one is necessarily their mistake though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, paying for a (primarily) multiplayer game isn't a problem for me. I actually might prefer it when you look at Overwatch vs Overwatch 2. But I wasn't about to sign up for a playstation account to play my Steam game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're talking like ow2 isn't literally the same game. I paid for ow1 and can't go back to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think that's what makes it such a good point of comparison though. It's titled differently and we were promised it would be different, but all that really happened was they changed their monetization tactics. And maybe it's just nostalgia, but I remember liking Overwatch when it came out, but now I have almost zero interest in playing Overwatch 2, even though I've gone back to it a few times just to give it a try.

[–] ngwoo 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's likely that Concord's lifetime peak will be lower than Deadlock's closed beta peak

[–] Carighan 14 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I did not even know a game called Concord exists.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] snekerpimp 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for that

[–] Chocrates 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Deadlock eh, never heard of it. Seems to be a valve Overwatch?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's dota 2 if it were a very competitive 3rd person shooter. More of a MOBA than a hero shooter, and it's very complex. Also I've been playing it for a month, AMA I guess

[–] Chocrates 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, it's very fun.

[–] cowfodder 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask you anything? Can I have an invite?

[–] kautau 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

[email protected]

Somebody posted that community, maybe invites there

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It is like Overwatch and Leaguen of Legends/Heroes of the Storm had a baby.

It is a FPS MOBA.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not an FPS, but a 3rd person shooter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Close enough :P

[–] drphungky 5 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone calling it a shooter MOBA is right, but more basically: It's Smite. It's just Smite, but good. I played the Smite 2 alpha and it was very lame, no verticality, gunplay felt bad. Deadlock has an original theme, gunplay feels tight, and there is clearly a huge skill ceiling. I don't know if it's 100% yet, which tracks cuz it's an alpha, but it's already better than Smite and I have faith they'll make it better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

No. More a third person Battleborn, actually. Or Dota with guns. It has items, ability leveling, hero leveling, lanes, NPCS, all the MOBA things.

And no, Battleborn never played like Overwatch.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's not for everyone, but it has fit surprisingly well into the Battleborn-shaped hole in my heart.

[–] kautau 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I’m for new games and hopefully people love it but “hero shooter” and “moba” definitely aren’t categories I’m looking for in new games, the market is flooded with them. Hopefully valve can stand out

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really wanted battleborn to succeed on release even though it was just kind of flawed from a design standpoint. I kind of gave up on competitive fps games since then though.

With how chaotic the fights look like and how high the ttk looks to be, is the game still fun at lower-mid skill levels?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Deadlock or Battleborn?

I'd say yes. But you do have to figure out how to apply the MOBA way of thinking. How to stack the stats of items, abilities and leveling up, into doing a shitload of damage without dying.

That applied to Battelborn, and it does in Deadlock, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I was specifically asking how Deadlock felt.

I've played quite a bit of MOBA's before, coincidentally the other big third person ones Smite and Paragon, so I've got a decent feel for builds and macroplay and I'm not necessarily worried about those aspects.

I grew up as a console gamer but exclusively play on PC now so I've found for fps games I have trouble competing because my aim isn't as great.

[–] Nosavingthrow -5 points 3 weeks ago

I think Overwatch is kind of dog shit and would take that game over Deadlock every time. May as well just skip the shooter and play DOTA.

[–] ObsidianZed 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just fyi, I saw this posted in the announcements channel of their Discord server that you can join from the game's main menu.

[–] Celsiuss 8 points 3 weeks ago

Announcement was on Discord