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[–] Diplomjodler3 190 points 1 month ago

It's a total mystery. Nobody can possibly know.

[–] rustyfish 120 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They are still reposting that one picture of a burning Abrams from the 90s I think?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think there's a new one now, isn't there, from march? Of a "destroyed" Abrams, where the crew got out safely, turret still attached and probably recoverable.

[–] Warl0k3 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a couple of photos of abrams with fracked tracks that they've been claiming are "destroyed", that's been pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, if that happens on the retreat, that's still a loss of a vehicle. But losing a crew is almost always worse.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I remember on some military channel how tank crews were terrified of burning up inside a tank (a common fate in WWII) and so the A1 was made as fireproof as they possibly could make it.

It may have just been history channel propaganda, though.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 97 points 1 month ago

Daddy Putz has a humiliation fetish.

He could easily take over the rest of the world but he’d never get hard again.

What a dilemma.

[–] Etterra 71 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Ah yes. "Better." Although the only time I ever hear about the Ruskies' newest "better" tank is when gets blown up by a missile.

While I (American) am not a fan of the F35 - mostly because it costs so goddamn much money that could be better used for shit like infrastructure or healthcare - the Abrams remains a solid, proven platform. It's starting to show its age a little, but it's still MUCH cheaper and more practical to minority iterate than start from scratch. Whatever guy posted that was probably one of these 'Tankies' I keep hearing about.

[–] setsneedtofeed 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The US is planning for a new tank roundabout 2030. While right now it notionally is going to be an Abrams derivative, it is almost certainly going to be a completely overhauled new design and not a retrofit of existing tanks like what has been happening to Abrams.

Just something to point out to people who complain about the U.S. gifting stocks of vehicles to Ukraine. The U.S. was planning to get rid of them anyway.

The F-35 is an expensive program, and has undeniably had cost overruns, but from some of the poking around it seems the issues have also been exaggerated or different issues have been conflated, so without doing a deep dive, it is hard to say if the program is worth the bang or not.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The f-35 has no peer, from a us perspective every dollar spent being ahead is a win.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This post looks like sarcasm to me

[–] Jiggle_Physics 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, this def looks like satire.

However, there are THOSE people out their, in the wild.

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[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The thing with the F-35 is you'll never actually hear about it being "better" because there is no dogfight. It shows up, you die, that's it. In the real-world it would be like one guy showing up to a boxing ring to fight, and the other guy dropping a nuclear bomb on the stadium. The whole point of 5th gen fighters is that they don't engage, they have so much technology that they blow up the opponent before the opponent even knows they showed up.

Meanwhile, Russia's "5th gen" fighters can't get near the airspace because they both don't have the proper smart munitions, and don't have the physical capabilities to fly into an area blanketed in US AA weapons.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer 66 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Reminds me of the latest Adam Something video. Russians are raised from birth with ridiculous amounts of "Russia Fuck Yeah" that's just pure triple distilled victory porn, and posts like that are the consequence.

[–] olafurp 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You should check out some American movies. Those are also pretty wild

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My favourite line from any of the Grand Theft Auto games is from a radio ad for some movie that ends with "Rated PG for Patriotic Garbage"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As an American, American jingoism in films does make me laugh. Like we are the only ones who can save the world.

Does Russia have films like that?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Well, there's books like that. The idea seems to be that the problem with Nazis wasn't the whole genocide thing, but rather the fact that they invaded Russia. So let's do this: go back in time with modern equipment, ally with Hitler, and march on London and bomb Washington.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

jingo unchained

[–] SlopppyEngineer 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Start from American movies, then add a bunch of historical rewriting and fighting Nazis everywhere and you're getting close to Russian level movies from what I've heard.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

f35 is like a bee if you tell it it can't fly it will drop out of the sky

[–] ChicoSuave 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Little know fact: bees are fly-by-wire

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah so the country which is currently struggling to re-secure its own territory following a battle that was part of protracted invasion that it started with every possible advantage and bungled so hilariously that the local citizenry literally thwarted your goons by changing road signs around is the most superior army in the world? Riiiiight

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are the leaves speaking Russian?

[–] cryptiod137 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The maple syrup started to ferment in the heat

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Fuck YOU. I literally had coffee come out my nose.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You fool! I have only used 10% of my full power so far!

- Putin, in his wet dreams

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course it's a Canadian on 4chan 😂

[–] setsneedtofeed 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Canadian". You can manually change your flag.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"As a ~~black man~~ Canadian...."

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] RedditWanderer 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is clearly a deep fake. Russians can't produce that much food in one picture.

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[–] Anticorp 33 points 1 month ago (14 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whats on the image has to be satire right? They are literally describing all the issues Russia is having with their equipment, then asking why they can't fight the US with their superior gear.

[–] Anticorp 18 points 1 month ago

It's 4chan, so who knows. I was assuming it was propaganda, or a Tankie true believer.

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[–] andrewth09 28 points 1 month ago

That's a Russian talking point from 2022. It's like seeing a vintage car on the road.

[–] NOT_RICK 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Why are they putting Abrams in quotes and not mighty as if that’s not the real name of the tank

Bait?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

we can assume it’s bullshit since it was posted on 4chan. Otherwise, someone thinks something stupid. Ok

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya 25 points 1 month ago

If this is that post is serious, that is some cope from a Russian troll.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Clearly none of these are worthy to battle the mighty t-14 so it just slumbers awaiting a formidable challenger or leopard

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