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[–] [email protected] 133 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is serious and I hate that I can't find a follow-up.

[–] miseducator 107 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Imagine Apple destroying your son's hearing and your lawyer says, "Welp, $75,000 sounds like the going rate for the ability to hear normally. Let's sue one of the biggest corporations in the world for that amount." Then you go along with it.

[–] Pregnenolone 34 points 4 months ago

Should be $75 million.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

It just gets more and more tragic doesn't it.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

EDIT: I was wrong. See https://lemmy.world/comment/11464379

I managed to figure out how to follow the case
It was reassigned to a random court because Apple declined to appear in front of a magistrate: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/44577491/Gordoa_et_al_v_Apple,_Inc_et_al
then that court dismissed the case: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/44560022/Gordoa_et_al_v_Apple,_Inc_et_al

so basically nothing came of it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thank you for the more thorough search.

[–] roguetrick 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63314762/gordoa-v-apple-inc/

It's still quite active. They're arguing over discovery right now and trial is currently set for March of next year. Use court listener if you want to see the docket and read opinions, not these paid garbage sites.

They have a browser extension where anybody who pays for the document via PACER can then upload it for them to host. It's a good nonprofit doing what our government should do.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Law_Project

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Thank you! I don't know much about law, so I was just looking on Google

[–] Omega_Man 2 points 4 months ago

No. It looks like it's still pending. They just had to amend their complaint back in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised they're only asking $75k. That's like half a hearing aid nowadays (hyperbole)

[–] ralakus 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For anyone curious, I couldn't find an exact statistics but hearing aids in the US cost between $2000 to $8000 per pair with the average costs sitting around $5000-$6000 per pair.

Insurance coverage varies per insurance provider and per state. It looks like many people will end up paying the maximum required by law before insurance takes over which is roughly between $1000-$3000 depending on state.

Not only is a single purchase expensive, you usually have to replace them every 3 to 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

And that's still forgetting they cannot bring the full quality hearing back.

[–] acetanilide 9 points 4 months ago

Just went through this

I was only able to get mine because of a grant i found, which paid 100% of the cost (over $3k).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You know, 6k$ for hearing aid makes me think hinding in forests from voenkom isn't that bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It should really be 7 digits, if not 8.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I searched and the only update I can find is that Apple managed to get the gross negligence and fraud by non-disclosure complaints dismissed along with the request for punitive damages. All locked behind a paywall though. Case is Gordoa v. Apple Inc et al, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, No. 3:22-cv-02900 for anyone that has paid access to legal databases.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why the fuck are legal databases locked behind paywalls

[–] roguetrick 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

PACER charges per page. Mirrors charge less than that. The best is court listener, which doesn't have a paywall but might not have all documents. They're nonprofit.

The reason courts charge is because they decided to fund the filing services by lawyers paying for it instead of general taxes.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63314762/gordoa-v-apple-inc/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Thank you for the more thorough search.

[–] wreckedcarzz 33 points 4 months ago

Well that's terrifying

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does it play that loud on headphones on Android devices?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

I’m sure it doesn’t. Also I’m an AirPod and AirPod pro user and it doesn’t play that loud on them. I believe this child’s AirPods were defective.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan 14 points 4 months ago

Mine doesn't even make a sound

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Android can disable these alerts using ADB

adb start-server

adb shell pm disable com.android.cellbroadcastservice

Edit: AND

adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver (This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)

Caveat:

CellBroadcast is a feature of the Android Open Source Project that allows devices to receive and display emergency alerts from cellular networks. Learn how to implement CellBroadcast in your device, how to configure the broadcast channels and languages, and how to test the functionality with the CellBroadcast app.

This is the app code that provides these alerts.

https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/modular-system/cellbroadcast

[–] BlessedDog 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can just disable them in the settings...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] clubb 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most devices just ask you if you want to keep receiving emergency alerts after the first one. (At least in Romania)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some countries send it on a channel level which cannot be blocked/silenced/opted out of.

The 'presidential alert' level.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sup. I've also had my carrier re-enable it wirelessly.

I don't have a screenshot of my own, but I found one on the internet:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is seriously fucked up

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If the disable method doesn't work, you can try

adb shell pm uninstall -user 0 -k com.android.cellbroadcastservice

Edit: AND

adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver (This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)

(I've also disabled and/or uninstalled and/or firewalled and/or removed 'modify system settings' permissions many of my carrier apps)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Just live in a country which refuses to acknowledge cell broadcast exists, then you'll die in peaceful silence in the next national emergency while operators take several hours to to send 11 million unicast SMS.

Taps forehead

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I turn that shit off. It’s so obnoxious that I don’t even care to look for the kids.

[–] MrFappy 14 points 4 months ago

For real though. The volume on that shit is out of hand.

[–] weeeeum 8 points 4 months ago

I have always been paranoid about taking my earbuds out before sleeping. I was mostly afraid of messing with the screen and turning the volume up, or pressing the buttons. I was worried about the most random thing like this too.