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[–] flicker 61 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I feel like this map was designed to piss off everyone.

[–] teft 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

New England is fully correct so no one there will be mad.

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[–] SendMePhotos 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where's the pacific northwest? It's labeled weird.

[–] Anticorp 5 points 5 months ago

All of Cascadia.

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[–] TargaryenTKE 43 points 5 months ago

If you go up to any Hoosier (resident of Indiana) and tell them they live in the Ohio River Valley, you're getting punched in the face

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jersey sure as shit ain't "Chesapeake".

[–] 50_centavos 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Neither is Pennsylvania, this map is way off.

[–] teamevil 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like there's a weird feral vibe in Philly anyway, Definitely should be a specific region.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Delaware Valley.

[–] JJROKCZ 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Absolutely never will you catch a southern Illinoisan saying we’re from/in the south. We say Midwest or southern Illinois to be more specific.

[–] unphazed 5 points 5 months ago

I never understood why people think WV is a southern state. 1) It fucking snows and is cold af in winter. 2) We literally exist because we ain't traitors.

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[–] reddig33 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Central Texas is nothing like East Texas, so that makes the rest of this map suspect.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Yea, this map is nonsense.

I've never heard half of these names used like this.

"Chesapeake"... First I've never heard it used as a region, second the region so labeled on the map would be better called Mid-Atlantic (~~and that wouldn't really be accurate either~~) that really is the Mid-Atlantic region, and there's no Mid-Atlantic on this map, but there's a Mid-Atlantic South (which I've never heard anyone use - VA is Mid-Atlantic).

Third, the Chesapeake doesn't even extend to PA, let alone up to NY or Jersey, over there is the Delaware Bay, so should we call that region "Delaware"?

I've never once heard anyone call that region Chesapeake - it's the Mid-Atlantic.

Then there's the Texas nonsense - there's West Texas, Central, East (sometimes jokingly referred to as Arkansas) I'll allow Rio Grande though I've never heard that used.

The West stuff... Yea, no. The Rockies, OK.

A source would be useful, perhaps knowing the context (like how this is used) would clarify things.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Also, it looks like the "Central Valley" in CA extends uphill to the top of the Sierras and Lake Tahoe. Plus "Socal" is as far north as Carmel.

No. Carmel is the Central Coast. You might as well add that to the Central Valley and add some new group for the Sierra Nevada mountains that includes northern CA above Sacramento. The north coast is culturally and geographically similar to the Sierras. "Socal" doesn't extend farther north than Santa Barbara.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Chesapeake kinda looks like it’s the Chesapeake bays watershed, for what it’s worth.

[–] morphballganon 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... I've heard of Cascadia before, but people here would say they're in the Pacific NW region.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

A lot of those are overlapping, like Appalacha and the Great Lakes both extend into Upstate NY, much of lower Appalacha is also considered mid-atlantic, etc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The map labels central Texas as Texas and east Texas as Deep South. They're labeled differently. I don't understand your comment.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Neat!

Though, I've found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they're "from the Midwest".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

That's shorthand we use for people outside of the Midwest or those unfamiliar with the region.

It's similar to a person from a suburb of Boston just saying they're from Boston for simplicity's sake even if a lot of important nuance and context is lost.

[–] JJROKCZ 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s because the majority of these regions are horseshit. Nearly everything around the Midwest in this map doesn’t exist and we’ll just say we’re from the Midwest

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I've found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they're "from the Midwest".

I would venture to say that the part of all of these regions adjacent to the Midwest could be considered subregions of it. Many people you'd meet in these areas would be likely to say they're in the Midwest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, living in what the map calls "lower midwest" the midwest will do its best to not include.

I live in Missouri, friends living in midwest states "Missouri isn't Midwest." They can't tell you exactly where it is, but it sure isn't midwest. And the exclusion seems to continue all the way northward until I'm convinced Wisconsin is just attempting to rename itself "Midwest" so that no one else can claim it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I assure you that nobody in Philadelphia considers themselves to be part of the Chesapeake region

[–] markstos 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And no one from Indiana says they live in the Ohio River Valley.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I've lived in PA and NJ for 20+ years as an adult. Never heard anyone reference Chesapeake.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've never heard anyone refer to the mid Atlantic south, but the piedmont is common.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Mid-atlantic, sure. Never Mid-atlantic-south.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

very few call it nyc metro, most locals refer to it as the tri state

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Similarly, areas surrounding DC in Maryland and Virginia should be labeled DMV, not Chesapeake.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's a tough one because Tri-State can refer to different states. I'm guessing for you it's New York, New Jersey, Connecticut?

Having grown up in South Jersey, that was also called the Tri-State area, but it referred to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York (sometimes Delaware instead of New York).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I've read a variant of this that's little more interesting, and useful, because it includes the backstory, as well as Canada's role (which does overlap a lot of the US).

It's not 100% accurate, largely because of urbanization, but you can see how we got to where we are today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Nothing in Texas is part of the south. Not only will the south tell you that, Texas will tell you that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Hard disagree. I lived in Dallas for 15 years. Longview and Tyler are classic Southern.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I've got some bad news for you hoss

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Well, they don’t even get all of Texas. So, who cares what they have to say. Can’t even keep their whole state. Who knew “Texas” was just a small chunk in the middle.

[–] thirstyhyena 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As a non-american, I have never heard of "northwoods" before.

[–] Zannsolo 5 points 5 months ago

SoCal does not go up that far not even close. Gross

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Some of these things seem solely topographical-based.

[–] QuarterSwede 4 points 5 months ago

The Rocky Mountains extend into NE Washington state. The map is a very rough approximation at best.

[–] over_clox 4 points 5 months ago

Missing the rust belt and the Bible belt...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This guide is inaccurate. The region labelled midwest is actually in the east. And the region labelled deep south is actually in the northern hemisphere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I don't think New England is a useful category anymore, since modern-day Maine doesn't have more in common with the Boston area than it does with upstate New York. I'd extend what they're calling the "NYC Metro" area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Head on over to Boston and tell them that they're in the NYC Metro area, I dare you. I want to watch.

Instead, split New England into Southern and Northern. Southern includes Mass, Rhode Island, Eastern Connecticut (the NYC Metro area is fine there), and south New Hampshire. Northern is everything else. Some may argue that Portland, Maine should be included in Southern, but I argue that while the culture has some similarities to Southern New England, it's more similar to the rest of Maine. Go to a redneck party in Southern Maine and start talking about the Old Port. Pay attention to how many people have an opinion.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I'd extend what they're calling the "NYC Metro" area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.

What you're describing is called the I95 Corridor.

[–] Feathercrown 4 points 5 months ago

Brave but not inaccurate.

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