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J.K. Rowling is embroiled in a fresh row with another Harry Potter actor over transgender rights.

Following exchanges of fire with Daniel Radcliffe and others, Rowling has blasted David Tennant after the Goblet of Fire star voiced strident views on those who speak out against trans rights.

During an appearance at the British LGBT Awards over the weekend, he called on British equalities minister Kemi Badenoch to “shut up” after she advocated for banning trans women from entering women’s toilets and sports teams.

In an interview at the same event, Tennant called transgender critics “a tiny bunch of little whinging f*ckers who are on the wrong side of history, and they’ll all go away soon.”

Earlier in the week, Rowling branded people like Tennant the “gender Taliban.” In posts on X (once Twitter) on Friday, she expanded her comments to address Tennant’s “wrong side of history” quote.

Rowling wrote: “This man is talking about rape survivors who want female-only care, the nurses currently suing their health trust for making them change in front of a man, girls and women losing sporting opportunities to males and female prisoners incarcerated with convicted sex offenders.”

She added: “For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Tennant called transgender critics “a tiny bunch of little whinging f*ckers who are on the wrong side of history, and they’ll all go away soon.”

Is the real headline here. And good for him.

I'd rather not give what's her name any more attention over this crap.

Also, calling Tennant a "Harry Potter actor", while true, feels like a calculated insult to a man who has played Doctor Who, The Purple Man, and Crawley.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was also barely even in Harry Potter, if we are going by screen time pretty sure Harry potter is the least relevant part of his career.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't even aware that he was in there.

[–] Confused_Emus 26 points 5 months ago (9 children)

He was in Goblet of Fire. Showed up briefly at the beginning and end of the movie, certainly easy to miss. More of a cameo appearance for David Tennant fans.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also, calling Tennant a “Harry Potter actor”, while true, feels like a calculated insult to a man who has played Doctor Who, The Purple Man, and Crawley.

I'm not sure it's a "calculated insult" but it did read a but oddly (I assumed initially that it was referring to someone else). I presume the writer or their editor went with that angle because because his having appeared in the Harry Potter movies is relevant to an article and fitted the wider context of JK Rowling falling out with HP cast members. I'm not convinced it was the right approach.

[–] III 25 points 5 months ago

Tennant, who once lowered himself to appear in a Harry Potter film, stated....

Better?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not sure it's a "calculated insult" but it did read a but oddly (I assumed initially that it was referring to someone else).

Yeah. My choice of words was a bit unnecessarily inflammatory. I struggled to find the words for how weird a choice of introduction it is, but don't mean to actually assign malice.

I don't really think the article author meant anything by it necessarily.

Your point about the context of the cast relationships makes sense. Probably why they went for it.

[–] [email protected] 157 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Tennant: TERFs are whiny fucking babies

JK Rowling, Court Jester: whines like baby

[–] Infernal_pizza 103 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Extra Fabulous on It as usual

[–] [email protected] 134 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is it that every time we hear from the TERF in the high castle, she's somehow even more unhinged?

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 62 points 5 months ago (7 children)

When you have that much money reality ceases to exist. Rich people live in the ultimate echo chamber.

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[–] Diplomjodler3 133 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Calling someone Taliban while at the same time sharing a lot of Taliban ideology is the kind of delicious irony people like Rowling are completely oblivious to.

[–] NickwithaC 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 128 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

“For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

Critical of people she praises for compassion.

"J.K. Rowling has recently been canceled because she… did not please the fans of the so-called gender freedoms."

-Putin

Praised by fascist dictators.

And yet somehow JK thinks she is on the right side of history? 😄

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[–] Mighty 108 points 5 months ago

So much Love for David Tennant<3

[–] [email protected] 99 points 5 months ago

Thankfully the vast majority of the cast of the Harry Potter movies ended up being decent people. They are the ones that young people should look up to, not whatever the fuck Joanne has become.

She's taking the Graham Linehan route, dedicate your whole life to bashing trans people and spreading hate against them, to the point where you ruin your entire legacy and your own personal relationships.

She can keep fighting against trans people's right to exist, but trans people will just fight back at every turn.

[–] obinice 95 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Harry Potter actor? This man is the Doctor.

He's a national treasure.

[–] Etterra 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

To be fair his character in HP was a murderous psychopath.

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[–] kerrigan778 70 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Where can I get my membership card, shirt, and other swag as a member of David Tennant's Gender Taliban

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Putting all the politics aside, man I wish he got more roles. The purple man was the best part of Jessica Jones.

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[–] mecfs 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’m so glad I pirated the harry potter audiobooks and didn’t give a cent to this bigot

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I am/was likely far too old to be in the target demographic for Pottermania but they never worked for me. They always felt a little... safe, reactionary even as they drew on a long tradition of British boarding school books without really addressing or undermining the genre tropes or even using it as a means to examine that culture. It then wasn't a surprise to find out the author had some questionable views didn't seem a great surprise to me.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago

She really is firmly determined to take anyone who's ever cast doubt on her intelligence and decency, and prove them thoroughly right.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago

There’s a few butt-hurt TERFs here downvoting. I wonder if the endorphin rush from such a rebellious act will carry them through the day.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Rowling should have stopped saying things in like 2005 tbh

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[–] Phegan 41 points 5 months ago

Fuck you Joanne.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The irony is that the Taliban agrees with JK Rowling on matters of gender and sexuality lol.

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[–] Etterra 30 points 5 months ago

I expect in a Rowling vs. Tenant fight, Tenant is gonna come out with a win every time. That woman has a damaged moral compass on a good day.

[–] Ibaudia 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This man is talking about rape survivors who want female-only care, the nurses currently suing their health trust for making them change in front of a man, girls and women losing sporting opportunities to males and female prisoners incarcerated with convicted sex offenders.

It's hilarious that she's making these seem like widespread issues when most of them are literally just one incident, or aren't happening at all. These are the best examples she can come up with of legitimate grievances against trans people?

How about "bullied to suicide, denied medical care, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, and getting violently hate crimed at enormous rates" for the other side of this issue? Even if you think trans identities are invalid, at least pretend to treat them with the same respect you would other human beings. But no, trans people who are just trying to survive day-to-day are nonchalantly grouped in with pedophile rapists, as if those two things are in any way equivalent.

It's easy to hate someone when you just ignore what they really are and supplant it with something else entirely.

[–] norimee 18 points 5 months ago

As a cis female rape survivor I would choose the care of a compassionate trans woman over a judgemental TERF anytime!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Glad to not see the usual "separate the art from the artist" crowd that can't stop giving her money to continue to be a fucking plague on humanity.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheBat 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She wishes she had a knob.

The writings of young trans men reveal a group of notably sensitive and clever people.  The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge. I struggled with severe OCD as a teenager. If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.

When I read about the theory of gender identity, I remember how mentally sexless I felt in youth. I remember Colette’s description of herself as a ‘mental hermaphrodite’ and Simone de Beauvoir’s words: ‘It is perfectly natural for the future woman to feel indignant at the limitations posed upon her by her sex. The real question is not why she should reject them: the problem is rather to understand why she accepts them.’

As I didn’t have a realistic possibility of becoming a man back in the 1980s, it had to be books and music that got me through both my mental health issues and the sexualised scrutiny and judgement that sets so many girls to war against their bodies in their teens. Fortunately for me, I found my own sense of otherness, and my ambivalence about being a woman, reflected in the work of female writers and musicians who reassured me that, in spite of everything a sexist world tries to throw at the female-bodied, it’s fine not to feel pink, frilly and compliant inside your own head; it’s OK to feel confused, dark, both sexual and non-sexual, unsure of what or who you are.

Joanne is bitter because others are having what she didn't get.

Source: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Wait... The UK has a minister of Equalities and they're against equality? What the fuck?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She added: “For a man who’s supposedly a model of compassion and tolerance, he sure does want a lot of people to cease to exist.”

What a dumb cunt she is

[–] HowManyNimons 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How can she not see the projection? Do people get their ability to not tell on themselves removed when they cast that magical first Tory vote?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is not going to go well for her.

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[–] Delusional 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hmm maybe if you keep attacking the people who stand for good, that means that you're the evil one with dumb, shitty, and wrong ideas? Ever think of that you dumb fuck Rowling?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The sooner JK Rowling is charged with hate speech, the better. How the fuck has she been allowed to get away with it for so long I don’t know.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

How the fuck has she been allowed to get away with it for so long I don’t know.

Those in power agree with her, and are probably glad she's so willing to do their dirty work for them

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