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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

Please shut the fuck up im trying to eat

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Thats wild I'll eat it however I like

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasabi and soy sauce one is a lie. You are also supposed to eat ginger before and after every dish

[–] sheogorath 6 points 4 days ago

Yea I was like WTF. I went to Japan for work for several months and when the guys at Yokohama office took me eating sushi that's what they did.

[–] Reddfugee42 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bahaha fuck this I'll enjoy things as I please

[–] Pilferjinx 13 points 5 days ago

"No sushi for you!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

please do not chew off your sushi

Wow, the Japanese must have much bigger mouths than me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

It's quite possible they simply make their sushi smaller, depending where you live. Americans tend to make things a size or two bigger than a lot of the rest of the world.

[–] Evotech 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So ketchup on sushi is acceptable

[–] Cort 6 points 4 days ago

I assume it's fine as long as you don't get any on the rice

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

When I lived in Japan (around 15 years ago, so etiquette might have changed since then) it was common to take the fish off of the rice and dip it in soy sauce, then put it back on the rice bed in instances where it was just placed atop the rice. Likewise, it was perfectly fine to mix wasabi into your soy sauce.

I've done things that way since without any overt disdain, so I think these are generally good guidelines, but you can probably get away with doing some things your own way.

[–] Orbituary 68 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I love seeing everyone try to reason their way out of accepting a polite request that literally says that it's not mandatory.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (8 children)

The only one I really would avoid is passing things between or touching chopsticks together. This is reminiscent of Japanese funeral rituals and thus considered rude to do at the table.

The others are more about common sense and trying to help you enjoy the sushi as the chef intended:

  • They are bite-sized pieces, designed as a flavour combination, so don't break them up in any way
  • If you don't want rice, sashimi is a good way to get that
  • Putting too much soy sauce on the rice can make it fall apart
  • (real) Wasabi is delicate and mixing it with soy sauce will certainly destroy its subtle flavour. In any case in a high-end place the sushi chef will have added everything that's intended as part of the flavour combination before serving the sushi, so adding stuff is not necessary

But again, these are suggestions. Enjoy the sushi how you like, you're not hurting anyone.

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[–] Delphia 9 points 5 days ago

Now in fairness we dont know how high end this Sushi place is, if its a place where your paying for the experience its more understandable but It does read a little bit passive agressive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Yep. To turn the tables, is anyone going to stop you if you order a well-done steak and douse it in ketchup? Probably not unless you’re at a very high end establishment, but will it come off as uncultured, rude to the chef and raise a few eyebrows? You bet.

Likewise, there are Italian places where they will outright refuse to cut your pizza for you or to put parmesan on seafood pasta. British high tea is loaded with rules for serving and consumption order. Lots of cultures have these rules and expectations.

This is a helpful guide to general politeness and etiquette in a culture that highly prizes those things. It’s meant to be helpful to those who care. Why people are shitting on it as some show of defiance is beyond me and comes off childish as all hell.

[–] GeneralEmergency 6 points 4 days ago

Lemmites love being difficult thran bastards.

[–] LANIK2000 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I always find such guidelines strange. Like I get the intention is to share some experience, but I rarely find the intended way of anything enjoyable at all. Even western traditional etiquette is weird. I shall hold the fork in my right hand and you can't stop me aunty! My tea shall be hot juice! And my side shall be mixed with the sauce and meat into a big ol pile before consumption!

[–] Noodle07 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I switch my knife and fork as I need to use them, knife in right hand when I need to cut and fork in right hand to eat, that's all I know how to do 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My question is...how do you eat it within 30 seconds? I get that this type of etiquette exists in many different cultures but while I have never eaten sushi, I don't exactly get how that one is even possible?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

The context of this sign being in a sushi restaurant would be the key here. In higher-end, "omakase" sushi restaurants, you'll be served a set of sushi piece by piece as the chef makes it in front of you. Typically you'll want to eat it as soon as it is placed on your plate.

[–] Tudsamfa 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have never seen a sign saying I shouldn't cut spaghetti, shouldn't order pizza Hawaii, must split the potato with a fork, must have the knife in my right hand, or that the different cutlery for side dishes are mandatory.

Might be different in a high class restaurant, but whatever.

The only things signs in restaurants tell me is either "we only serve real meat, pussies can beat it" and "we did indeed pass the last inspection, here's the grossest looking cartoon implying we shouldn't have".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

None of this is mandatory, the sign says so. They're social norms, not legal rules. It's just saying "this is how this food is consumed in its original country, and breaking these norms may result in inadvertently offending someone or embarrassing yourself", which might be something you'd like to know if you plan to travel to that country, or simply to try experiencing it in the traditional way - after all, most social norms have a hidden logical reason. Many of these exist simply to avoid making a mess.

You're free to eat however you want, however some cultures do place a lot of significance on food and how it is consumed. People in Italy will lose some respect for you if you try to order a Hawaii pizza, put ketchup on pasta, or use a knife improperly. The same goes for Japan and many other places. You'll still be served and probably treated with superficial kindness, it just depends on how much weight you put on your experience vs that of others.

[–] Tudsamfa 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have read the sign, yes, but you have to agree that a sign saying these are big taboos and that it is seen as an offense to Japanese culture and to the chef if I broke them makes it seem like I will be blacklisted and kicked out.

What I didn't know was where exactly the restaurant is, the people in Italy can after all think whatever they want when the Italian chef is in Sri Lanka and happy to acclimate to local customs.

So anyways, the restaurant is probably "Sushi Kisen" in California, it seems to be a high class one. Given that I am probably expected to identify a salad fork in an equivalent french restaurant, and I don't sit in front of the chef in that one. They probably in a position to make these demands of their customers.

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[–] venoft 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Unless you hand me a soy sauce pipette i'll just dip the rice part in the soy sauce, thank you very much.

And wtf is tiny tiny rice?

[–] Shou 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the tiny tiny rice is just sushi with very little rice. You can just see a smaller ball of rice under the fish bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Sashimi is usually just fish without rice. Sometimes rice is served as a side. I think it is meant for people that order Nigiri with little rice. They should just order Sashimi.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago (4 children)

How the hell do i eat it in 30 seconds when it all arives at once?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago

That's not usually the case in a high-end sushi place. The chef will prepare your orders one by one and serve them out as soon as each is completed, so you will get one piece at a time.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So am I supposed to flip the sushi over to dip the fish side in the soy sauce? That seems a bit awkward

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

All within 30 seconds after waiting 20 minutes to get a tray of 4.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

It's actually culturally appropriate to eat sushi with your hands if you want, making the turn over dipping easier. The only reason they say not to dip the rice side is the worry that it'll soak up too much soy sauce and the fish flavor will be overpowered. But it's not that big a deal.

The passing food from one set of chopsticks to another is pretty strictly avoided in Japan though. They pass bones like that as part of funerary rites so it's pretty closely wired into Japanese people as a cultural taboo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

But yes, you're supposed to flip the nigiri 90+ degrees when dunking. It's why I usually just stick to the sashimi. 9/10 chance I drop the chunk in the sauce. Can't go wrong with that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

3 bucks for some extra wasabi and ginger?! That better be the real stuff for that price

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Real wasabi is way more expensive than $3.

[–] espentan 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

What's with the wasabi and soy mixing? I saw someone do that recently for the first time. He looked very confident at it and I assumed i had been doing it wrong all this time. Why is mixing a thing suddenly?

[–] Ledivin 36 points 5 days ago (24 children)

Why is mixing a thing suddenly?

Definitely not new, people have been doing this since at least the 90s, when I was a kid.

I also know plenty of Japanese people who say dipping the rice lightly into soy sauce is the correct method, so take literally any "sushi etiquette" guide with a grain of salt.

Eat your food in whatever way brings you joy. Anyone that says otherwise is a pointlessly-gatekeeping idiot.

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[–] sudo42 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mix my wasabi and soy sauce every time. I also dip my sushi in this mixture rice-side down. I’ve never had anyone complain about this. If any sushi chef ever does complain I will just leave and never give business to that gas station again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

gas station

Gottem

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

People in Japan do it all the time. Ideally, the chef would get the proper amount of wasabi on everything and you wouldn't need/want to do it, but that is not always the case. It is generally looked on more favorably to dab some wasabi on each piece rather than mixing, though.

[–] Phoenix3875 11 points 5 days ago

It depends. In really high-end and authentic sushi restaurant, there is already wasabi between the fish and the rice. You are supposed to dip the fish side in the soy sauce only.

On the other hand, it's okay to mix the wasabi if the sushi is not prepared that way. People do this even in Japan.

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