this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2024
568 points (99.5% liked)

News

23533 readers
6548 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The lead singer of the Four Tops said a Detroit-area hospital restrained him and ordered a psychological exam after refusing to believe that he was part of the Motown music group.

Alexander Morris, who is Black, filed a lawsuit Monday against Ascension Macomb-Oakland Hospital in Warren, alleging racial discrimination and other misconduct during an April 2023 visit for chest pain and breathing problems.

Hospital staff “wrongfully assumed he was mentally ill when he revealed his identity as a celebrity figure,” the lawsuit says.

Morris is not an original member, but he joined the group in 2019.

The lawsuit says a nurse finally believed Morris was in the Four Tops and the psychological exam was canceled.

The hospital offered a $25 gift card as an apology, but Morris refused to accept it, the lawsuit says.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] FiremanEdsRevenge 241 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The hospital offered a $25 gift card as an apology

The cherry on top.

[–] disguy_ovahea 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s such an insulting concession. I bet it’s only good for use in the hospital gift shop or cafeteria.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good for $25 off any elective procedure costing twenty thousand dollars or more!

[–] Snowclone 15 points 6 months ago

Expired last week!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

It's true use is to use as a legal argument that you accepted restitution. Luckily, he wisely declined or his suit might have been dismissed on grounds that they'd made it right already.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 157 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The funniest part of this story is learning that American hospitals have gift cards. What a joke of a healthcare system.

[–] chalupapocalypse 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Sir, we have a situation."

"Open the gift card safe."

[–] SupraMario 36 points 6 months ago

"should we give him a $100 card?" "No no, that's to much, he didn't lose a limb or an organ, the $25 card should be just fine"

[–] suction 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Madam? Madam, I need you to do 1 thing: Please drive to hospital and buy $1500 worth of gift cards, so we can make sure all the bad virus from your computer is cleaned, madam.

[–] CaptPretentious 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Ya know, I hadn't even thought of that until I read your comment. Because there's gift cards for damn near everything. But a 'gift card' for a hospital... That is weird.

[–] FlyingSquid 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The worst part is a $25 gift card wouldn't even cover a lot of people's co-pays.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I can only imagine the gift card is meant to be used for things like the cafeteria and perhaps the gift shop.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] meco03211 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. They really gotta get on those punch cards. 10 surgeries and the next one is free.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Why would the gift card be for the hospital? Could have been a prepaid credit card just as easily.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 122 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They were going to put him in a mental hospital and the best they can do to say sorry is a $25 gift card...

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They ordered an exam, but they cancelled it before it was given.

Their defense could be to describe what behavior the singer had besides stating he was one of the Four Tops that might give them concern about his mental health.

They cancelled the exam after figuring out that he actually was, so presumably it was a significant part of the decision.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they charged him a cancelation fee.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] littlewonder 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That feels like a $1 inheritance. Was the hospital trying to get the worst PR angle possible?

[–] Khanzarate 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is.

If he accepted it, he'd no longer have an argument with a strong foundation. He could still sue, but a lawyer could argue they already made it right.

Exactly the same logic as a 1$ inheritance, it shows that this was dealt with, so the law doesnt have to deal with it again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The hospital offered a $25 gift card as an apology, but Morris refused to accept it, the lawsuit says.

[–] Khanzarate 12 points 6 months ago

Right. If he had, he'd have been screwed by the hospital later, which is why he didn't.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Americans may pay significantly more for healthcare, but at least the quality of care is terrible.

[–] m13 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Anything else would be Communism, which is bad for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

They heard the term "better dead than red" and then realized that they were red inside.

[–] BackOnMyBS 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

I argued like a couple having a fight with a psychiatrist about me being autistic when I was hospitalized once. We had a literal antagonized fight over me being autistic in front of two other doctors. She raised her voice at and wouldn't believe me even though I told her I had been diagnosed by a psychologist that administered the ADOS, have seen said psychologist for months, my friends that are psychologists are confident I'm autistic, and that I was in special ed classes since 4th grade. I was seeking absolutely nothing related to it; I just happened to mention it in passing when I said I didn't like sleeping at the hospital and missed my bed.

Warning: sarcastic vent session

Tap for spoilerThis became the psychiatrist's last stand against Big Autism. She wasn't going to let a patient undermine her absolute authority by them giving her information that she needed to have a thorough understanding of the case. Who do I think I am to know and have an opinion about my entire life and well-being?? As soon as I got home, I threw her prescription in the trash.

I worry about all the other vulnerable patients that she treats and dont have the mental strength to stand up to her, just getting drugged up for whatever would validate her need for control over others.

Bonus: When I was receiving the discharge brief, she raised her voice at and put down a nurse that asked a question about my discharge instructions. Everyone's faces in the room were straight blank like this 😐. I guess they were used to her abuse.

[–] jordanlund 46 points 6 months ago

That's someone who needs to be brought before the state medical board. I hope you filed a complaint!

[–] Snowclone 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I had a ER guy fight me on me knowing what kidneys are, and if I'm having kidney pain or not. I have really bad memory loss so I was all kinds of flustered, eventually I remember that I didn't diagnose myself, a doctor did! A doctor told me it was kidney pain. That fucking weasel wouldn't listen to me for anything. Then he eventually agreed after seeing xrays, sent me to a kidney specialist, and she looked at both doctors diagnosis and said ''these guys are idiots.... see the L the xray tech typed in next to your kidney with the dark spot, yeah that's the Left kidney, your pain is behind your right kidney, The left has never hurt, correct?'' She was correct. Turns out I had referred pain from a spinal issue. She figured it out because I was sitting weird, and she was like, why do you sit like that? ''Oh, the pain goes away when I sit like this, but it comes back when I stand up''. ''yeah that's a spinal issue, kidney pain doesn't present that way at all.'' So basically, some doctors suck at bedside manner AND being a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

A large portion of medical practicioners are absolutely fucking insane. It's no wonder people have a massive distrust of healthcare. How is it possible that medical research and medical practice have such vastly different kinds of people in them?

It's scary when you realize that a medical degree is just a degree like any other, and that a lot of those people went through college the same way as any other person, probably not paying attention 90% of the time, and cheating on most of their assignments... your likelihood of having a dysfunctional doctor is about the same as your likelihood of having a dysfunctional tech support specialist.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's never too late to file a complaint. I'm sorry you went through that, but please help others that come after you.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] HarriPotero 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Something similar happened to this Finnish chainsaw juggler. He had just come back from performing at Kim Jong-Un's birthday and had a stubborn headache that wouldn't go away. Straight to the mental ward.

Article in Finnish, I'm sure Google translate does a decent job.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] FlyingSquid 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When asked why he is suing the hospital, Morris replied, "Can't Help Myself."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Hospital staff said, "see you in court." Morris responded, "Reach out. I'll be there."

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So nobody looks at him and says hey let me just Google this guy.

[–] grue 30 points 6 months ago

I just checked the Four Tops Wikipedia article, and the line that lists him as a current member of the group has a citation referencing a NY Times article from today about the same hospital incident/lawsuit filing, LOL.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 18 points 6 months ago

Maybe they did and Google's Shitty AI gave them the wrong answer.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] homesweethomeMrL 21 points 6 months ago

I saw the four tops a long time ago, but just for the record, they killed. It was outdoors and it started raining and instead of leaving, everybody was dancing. It was impressive.

[–] AshMan85 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So wrong on so many levels

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Name a more iconic duo than realists and being wrong about reality

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Everyone knows celebrities aren't real, so anybody claiming to be one must be delusional.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Can confirm. You see the guy firing people from Celebrity Apprentice? Deluded as hell.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yikes! But I could totally see this scenario happening lol. Maybe he came off agitated, manicky (he's in the hospital, maybe he's panicking or upset or whatever). Then he says he's famous too so the doctor was like oh ok, grandiose delusional. Check, check, and check. Assuming he doesn't already have a psych history, I don't see how they would've came to the mental illness conclusion if he was simply calmly saying who he was lol I mean that would've been really stupid

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Then he says he’s famous too so the doctor was like oh ok, grandiose delusional.

I'm more convinced that they had no fucking clue who the Four Tops even were. It's 2024 and this guy is all "you don't know who I am!" and they're like "you're too fucking right we don't" because what fucking nurse just out of medical school is listening to or even knows of the existence of the fucking Four Tops.

They probably thought he was just spouting geriatric fucking nonsense.

"I don't know, something about four tops? He's only wearing one top, no undershirt."

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›