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[–] [email protected] 117 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

You can drive for 16 hours and still be in Texas, the european mind cannot comprehend this! <

Yeah because driving 16 hours straight is stupid because you would just take the train and be driven 16 hours straight.

Car centric infrastructure should have never been introduced.

[–] EnderMB 36 points 7 months ago (5 children)

While public transport is undoubtedly fantastic, let's not pretend that it's a great option in many European countries. I'd love to take the train in the UK, but thanks to the Tories it would cost me more to take the train (when it works) than it would to drive and park.

The key is public ownership of public transport.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Public transport in Europe is often in a sorry state, but trust me, it's nothing compared to the US. Here in France, a lot of regional trains are very unreliable at best but at least high speed trains on dedicated tracks are fine (very expensive, but ok).

I don't remember UK rail to be a shitshow and/or that expensive but my only experience is going to/from central London to/from neighboring counties and it was fine.

But in the US, oh boy. About 15 years ago I was living with some roommates in Campbell, CA and we went to SF one day. 1h drive mostly on shitty concrete motorways, including probably around $5 of gas. They were heading north for a romantic getaway so I went back to Campbell by myself. It took almost 4 fuckin hours, on maybe 4 or 5 different private companies, and cost me like $25 to get back.

Public transit in the US is so fucked up im almost convinced it's by design.

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[–] CitizenKong 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Be there faster too, with a high speed train.

[–] ours 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Even non-high-speed trains go faster than most car highways and don't have to negotiate traffic.

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[–] JargonWagon 11 points 7 months ago

Sir, this is ~~a Wendy's~~ Detroit.

[–] Shialac 9 points 7 months ago (16 children)

I never get this argument of US Americans against public transport. Even in europe most public transport happens within one city, I don't regulary drive to another country

[–] DelightfullyDivisive 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think most Americans like the idea of public transport, and including a robust national rail network. The reason it doesn't exist are the oil and automotive lobbies. (Mostly oil.). Poorly educated Americans (the ones wearing MAGA hats) are easy to manipulate by these groups, as well.

[–] militaryintelligence 7 points 7 months ago

The liberals are trying to take your cars!

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[–] Altofaltception 113 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not that it's unsafe to drive in Detroit due to crime, it's just that the automotive industry lobbied hard to make the country car friendly, and that city faced the worst of it.

[–] YoFrodo 95 points 7 months ago (8 children)

This scene has nothing to do with car-centric city design

[–] Moneo 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, car centric design is less safe than human centric design. You're safer when there's more people around.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's the people I'm worried about

[–] edgemaster72 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

But if you're stuck in the woods, do you want to come across a person or a car?

[–] problematicPanther 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does the car have a person in it?

[–] edgemaster72 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It doesn't, but beware it carries a terrible curse...

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[–] StaySquared 45 points 7 months ago (10 children)

In Detroit where in some areas, you don't stop at a red light.. you drive right through it and keep going.

[–] tpihkal 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're white and driving a decent looking car the cops will just ignore you. At least that's what I was always told.

[–] StaySquared 71 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

My wife is Arab, wears a headscarf. She stopped at a red light, cop car whips around to the side of her vehicle and told her that driving the vehicle she has will catch attention and get car jacked. They outright told her never to stop at that red light and the following three red lights on that road, day or night.

[–] db2 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Did they offer her a gun if she didn't have one?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You don't get them for free here. You have to purchase the Big Mac meal to get the complimentary gun.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I got mine at the lost and found. Storage unit guy said that he has to get rid of them regularly or the box just fills up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lucky! I don't have one, so I just type 12345 on my dad's gun safe and borrow his 🤫

[–] popekingjoe 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

12345? That's amazing! I have the same combination on my luggage!

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[–] devfuuu 11 points 7 months ago

The american dream ™

[–] motor_spirit 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's pretty fuckin wild, but I believe it. Have gotten lost off 75 around Detroit and all of the burnt down homes and block boys weren't too welcoming lol

Got stopped by cops walking back to the room while staying in Philly, walking from a music festival with a female friend in little more than a bikini. We were told not to continue walking our intended route, they made us chill and hire a ride..

[–] BassaForte 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've lived in Philly for a while... it's crazy how most of center city is safe, but walk into the wrong neighborhood...

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[–] Nosavingthrow 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Detroiters was so good. I only watched a few episodes but they were bangers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Whole series is great, got canceled way too soon

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[–] x4740N 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is that person's nose real, I refuse to beleive its real

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah, its real common here in Michigan. We call it Vernors nose and you get it from the Vernors your mom gives you every time you get a sore throat.

[–] Mozingo 13 points 7 months ago

Lmao this is too real

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[–] TheBat 7 points 7 months ago

Forget the nose. That person isn't real.

He's Andy Samberg's damaged clone.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

It really is the Paris of the west.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Ty I'm gonna check it out!

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[–] buzz86us 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing due to the housing shortage literally everywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Kind of. The housing prices are rock bottom. there is also a sense of community that is utterly lacking in the airless suburbs. Seriously, there are some subs in places like Novi or Farmington that were built in the 80s and are completely lacking in sidewalks. Compared to that, some neighborhoods in Detroit have affordable homes, neighbors, and urban prairie. Seriously, Ive been to farms on land left to seed.

Also, there is a wave of gentrification coming through.. Mostly on the riverfront and along the Cass Corridor into Midtown. The Illitches and the Rocket Mortgage guy have both invested enormous quantities into fixing up that zone, and at least before the pandemic, there was really a sense that a recovery had begun. A lot of white people have been drawn to the area and a lot of old industrial or commercial have been redone into luxury apartments. And honestly, the corner of Jefferson and Woodward on a summer weekend is insanely nice these days.

I want to point out that there are still rough scrabble areas in Detroit, like Brightmoor. But down by Hart Plaza? Wayne State? The Fox? You'll be fine.

[–] itsnotits 8 points 7 months ago
  • its* first population growth
  • it's* a safe area
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