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Google fired 28 employees in connection with sit-in protests at two of its offices this week, according to an internal memo obtained by The Verge. The firings come after 9 employees were suspended and then arrested in New York and California on Tuesday.

In a memo sent to all employees on Wednesday, Chris Rackow, Google’s head of global security, said that “behavior like this has no place in our workplace and we will not tolerate it.”

He also warned that the company would take more action if needed: “The overwhelming majority of our employees do the right thing. If you’re one of the few who are tempted to think we’re going to overlook conduct that violates our policies, think again. The company takes this extremely seriously, and we will continue to apply our longstanding policies to take action against disruptive behavior — up to and including termination.”

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[–] frankgrimeszz 152 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

They dropped that one quietly a couple of years ago. I guess around the time they started doing contracts for Israel?

Edit: just Googled what this project nimbus is all about, and it sounds like basically building data centres in Israel, which is fair enough, but it ends with this titbit:

The terms Israel set for the project contractually forbid Amazon and Google from halting services due to boycott pressure.[7][8] The tech companies are also forbidden from denying service to any particular government entities.[8]

That's not something you put in your contract unless you're planning on doing something that'll attract boycotts

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not something you put in your contract unless you're planning on doing something that'll attract boycotts

Would genocide count? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be enough for most western countries.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

I mean for many (myself included) setting up shop in Israel is reason enough for boycotting an organisation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

The tech companies are also forbidden from denying service to any particular government entities.

That includes Palestine, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (11 children)

They didn't drop it. It was still in the handbook in 2022 when I signed it.

People like to claim they dropped it: but it's still there.

Now since I was laid off in the mass 2023 wave I can't speak to it's current state but I'd be shocked if they removed it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is going on strike considered boycotting?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I guess Google didn't want to risk finding out.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok so, “behavior like this has no place in our workplace and we will not tolerate it.”

But secretly selling services to a genocidal ethnostate does belong in the Google workplace and will be tolerated? Palestinians just don’t matter if you can you make a dollar off of their death and destruction??

https://time.com/6966102/google-contract-israel-defense-ministry-gaza-war/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well yeah, Google likes money.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

One more reason to degoogle.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"but some are more equal than others"
-- George Orwell

[–] JoeKrogan 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder If they were protesting some other interests such as against iran would they have been fired.... Of course not. Countries and companies are bending over backwards for Israel.

I hope the workers challange this in court.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown 18 points 2 months ago

I don’t want to take anything away from this protest. It worked about as well as everyone hoped. We’re talking about it in an international community. But come on, there was only one way this was going to end and it was with them getting fired regardless of the country/situation. The employees knew this as well, they probably have other jobs lined out already.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Happy to be almost degoogled when I read such things.

If only it was easy to get rid of YouTube..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

At least you can use things like NewPipe, or FreeTube (for now).

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Looking for more ideas how to boycott Google.

No longer using Chrome No longer using google search.

Somehow get off Gmail? Android gapps? Delete reviews?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Proton suite of apps have 1:1 replacements for the entire Gsuite. Some things are locked behind a subscription (email is fully free), so if you're not into that there's NextCloud if you can/want to self-host. Tuta is also a decent Gmail replacement. As for Gapps, there isn't really any good replacements; MicroG breaks a lot of things and sandboxed google play services is the only other alternative (which is only available on GrapheneOS afaik).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Proton suite of apps have 1:1 replacements for the entire Gsuite

That's just not true, they don't have office applications or video chat. I wish they did though. Also, their storage is pretty expensive.

Their email is pretty good though, and they have a decent VPN service as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

they don’t have office applications or video chat

Oh right, true. I forget Google has those.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (14 children)

The memo looks like it comes straight out of dystopian novel

How did we get here

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

What a wonderful future we are entering.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Their behavior was unacceptable, extremely disruptive, and made coworkers feel threatened

Maybe... because they feel threatened for themselves and their families?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

"don't be evil"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

😎👍 joke's on them i fired them from my phone

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same here on my PC, switched to Firefox and using duckduckgo.com to search the web

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Does the US still have a Fortune 500-wide hiring blacklist for those who publicly criticise Israeli military operations? If so, they may have a hard time finding other employment.

[–] NoLifeGaming 19 points 2 months ago

Glad I've been slowly moving away from being google centric.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

"How dare you protest genocide. The majority of our employees shut the fuck up about us supporting genocide, get in line or get cut."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am curious about how hard is the Boycot Divest Sanction movement is going to go down on google knowing that Google is the Internet. they seem to focus on Starbucks and McDonald.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

McDonald’s and Starbucks are grassroots boycotts. On the BDS webpage they state that HP, Siemens, AXA and Puma are primary targets, as well as fruits & vegetables.

Regarding these boycott lists that exist in the internet they write

The global nature of today’s economy means that there are thousands of companies that have links to Israel and are complicit to various degrees in Israel’s violations of international law. However, for our movement to have real impact we need our consumer boycotts to be easy to explain, have wide appeal and the potential for success. That’s why globally, while we call for divestment from all companies implicated in Israel's human rights violations, we focus our boycott campaigns on a select few strategic targets. We also encourage the principle of context sensitivity, whereby activists in any given context decide what best to target and how, in line with BDS guidelines. There is a lot of information online claiming that some large companies give money to Israel, some of which turns out to be false. BDS has built a reputation for strictly adhering to established facts and producing the most accurate information.

Google would obviously seem like a relevant target given this explanation and their current targets. At the same time, I can also only imagine that it would be more about pressurizing companies to move away from GCP and pressurizing Google to stop the collaboration with the occupation.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Didn't expected Google to fire so many of the protesters :(

Here's your place Google, good riddance! : https://killedbygoogle.com/

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Some of them occupied the office of Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian until they were forcibly removed by law enforcement.

Last month, Google fired another employee for protesting the contract during a company presentation in Israel.

In a memo sent to all employees on Wednesday, Chris Rackow, Google’s head of global security, said that “behavior like this has no place in our workplace and we will not tolerate it.” You can read the full memo at the bottom of this story.

He also warned that the company would take more action if needed: “The overwhelming majority of our employees do the right thing.

In a response statement, the “No Tech for Apartheid” group behind the protests called Google’s firings a “flagrant act of retaliation.”

“In the three years that we have been organizing against Project Nimbus, we have yet to hear from a single executive about our concerns,” the group wrote in a post on Medium.


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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every employee is bound by the Software Engineering code of ethics.

So does this mean Google has abandoned this.

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[–] xantoxis 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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