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The parents of a Michigan school shooter were each sentenced to at least 10 years in prison Tuesday for failing to take steps that could have prevented the killing of four students in 2021.

Jennifer and James Crumbley are the first parents convicted in a U.S. mass school shooting. They were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after prosecutors presented evidence of an unsecured gun at home and indifference toward the teen’s mental health.

Ethan Crumbley drew dark images of a gun, a bullet and a wounded man on a math assignment, accompanied by despondent phrases. Staff at Oxford High School did not demand that he go home but were surprised when the Crumbleys didn’t volunteer it during a brief meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good fuck these assholes.

Zero compassion for the victims' families and attempting to flee? Believe it or not, jail.

[–] NegativeInf 60 points 2 months ago

Compassion for other people? They couldn't even have enough compassion for their own fucking kid. Obviously crying out for help and what do they do? Give him a fucking gun! America. Fuck yea.

[–] LEDZeppelin 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CPAC just found their next keynote speakers

[–] FlyingSquid 85 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] b3an 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Cheems 4 points 2 months ago
[–] BeMoreCareful 2 points 2 months ago

Because the charges are misdemeanours, the McCloskeys do not face the possibility of losing their law licences and can continue to own firearms.

Who knew brandishing was a misdemeanor

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

My mind immediately goes to Grand Theft Auto every time I see this picture. Lol

[–] venusaur 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

👏 I love that this sets a precedent for parents. You can't just have kids, not parent them, and not be held accountable for their actions. I hope this is expanded across all similar situations, and even extends into other types of crime. raise a kid that does bad things, pay the consequences. then people will understand just how serious it is to create a life.

of course this is slippery slope, but in moderation i think this is fair. if parents did all they could to help the child and they still did bad things, they're not at fault.

[–] Dkarma 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They were only held accountable because they're poor.

Don't get it twisted

[–] venusaur 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fair. they couldn't afford the lawyers that rich parents can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't think 2A absolutists would help fund their defence if they thought it would help? This will be precedent setting.

[–] venusaur 1 points 2 months ago

I don’t think they’re high profile enough or nobody high profile enough has rallied for them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

They were held accountable because what they did was absurdly reckless.

[–] teamevil 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean also probably don't arm your emotionally unstable teen with a handgun...(Or anyone experiencing genuine emotional challenges) I mean I get hunting rifle for country hunting teens but these type of disasters never have real hunting rifles...it's always tactical shit or handguns.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In general I feel like parents shouldn't be held accountable for everything their kids do; but, in the circumstances surrounding this case where the parents gave a kid that was clearly mentally unstable a gun with no supervision or real steps to safeguard said gun... Yeah they should be held liable.

[–] teamevil 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The mother literally lied said she could not skip work to watch her son, (was disputed by the job which said she could skip) to give her lover a handy in a Costco parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Ooof... Mother of the year...

[–] venusaur 2 points 2 months ago

of course. that's an extreme of bad parenting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It sends a message to gun owners. Lock your shit up.

[–] nutsack 21 points 2 months ago

this needs to happen a lot more often

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hoping to see more of this (punishment for parents, not school shootings). Maybe if the owners of guns get prosecuted for crimes committed using their guns, we'd see people putting their OWN gun control into effect.

Owning a gun should be a responsibility, and anyone who isn't maintaining that responsibility should get punished when someone dies because of their negligence.

[–] Postmortal_Pop 5 points 2 months ago

Personally I feel like that's one of the best ways to start policing guns appropriately. Owners of guns used in crimes should be implicated in the crime committed. The majority of stolen guns aren't heisted from vaults, they're stollen from people who don't secure them. The people that leave them in the car, or in the side table. You wanna deal with illegal guns, that's where you start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

But, but, infant got car deaths have taught me that "parents have suffered enough already." /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

More like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Eltern haften für ihre Kinder