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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago

North Korea like: if I can't have a space program nobody else can either

[–] Zron 53 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This is false advertising.

Starlink was the first company and product designed to intentionally increase space junk.

Although not needing to provide and internet connection does mean FragSat is a cheaper and more superior product.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Starlink to date has not had any collisions, and it saved me from Comcast.

[–] V0lD 9 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure the joke is aimed at cubesats

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Launch a constellation of satellites that provide fibre optic levels of Internet service and cell signal anywhere on the globe.

Zron : nyeeh! Space junk! Elongated Muskrat!

You're utterly cooked, buddy.

[–] Zron 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Several things can be true at the same time.

Starlink exists to give SpaceX nongovernment launches to boost its numbers and make it look good as a stock.

It also happens to provide a service at what is almost certainly a loss, considering each satellite only lasts a few years and thus requires a constant stream of replacements to be launched.

It also happens to fill the sky with a bunch of garbage that will inevitably hit something and lead to a spray of even more garbage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It also happens to provide a service at what is almost certainly a loss, considering each satellite only lasts a few years and thus requires a constant stream of replacements to be launched.

OK, so you do get they're in decaying orbits. Good.

It also happens to fill the sky with a bunch of garbage that will inevitably hit something and lead to a spray of even more garbage.

What garbage? You just said they decay. Be consistent. There's plenty of reason to not like them. Kessler syndrome isn't one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What garbage? You just said they decay. Be consistent. There’s plenty of reason to not like them. Kessler syndrome isn’t one.

All that needs to happen is that 2 Starlink satellites collide, and then the debris won't stay at the same elevation. It will still be on a decaying orbit, but it might hit something on a more stable orbit further up before it comes down. And the debris from the second collision won't come down to earth anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Sure, if a collision happens (unlikely while under control) then another collision happens (also unlikely, space is big) then sure some debris could go into a non-decaying orbit. That's true for all satellites. Should we just not launch any because it could make things harder for other satellites?

Starlink is very unlikely to cause debris, and any debris it may cause, if any happens at all, is unlikely to cause any future problems because odds are it'd decay even faster. In the unlikely event everything goes wrong, it could cause minor issues, the same as any satellite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Pretty much every service in the tech industry runs at a loss for a long time, that's nothing special.

[–] anonymous111 38 points 6 months ago

"Just another way we're bringing space down to earth"

^ Fantastic tag line

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just spit balling here but is there any reason we couldn't also make the radioactive?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Russian-American de-escalation line transcript from Dec 14th 2024:

Saltzman: Dmitry, care to enlighten me as to why exactly Roscosmos felt the need to launch a Soyuz with nothing but depleted uranium marbles on board?

Rogozin: Scy-eence

Saltzman: OK, and why the second one?

Rogozin: Ree-plecibility

Saltzman: ...

Rogozin: Vhat? I dought you like spacebolls

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Honestly you could do a ton of damage if you were to just yeet a metric ton or so of sand and gravel into LEO and released it in an exciting fashion

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Make sure it's in a retrograde orbit for maximum fuckery

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Of course you could, but good luck letting Leo agree to that, he was even squeamish about the anal sex.

[–] Agility0971 8 points 6 months ago

sand accelerated on a glitter bomb like spinner so you cover all angles

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Imagine a starship load of glitter. The horror!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

That sounds like a good way to find a spaceship full of dead astronauts with very glittery lungs.

[–] RGB3x3 6 points 6 months ago

Or when the sun hits the glitter mass just right: the beauty?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Kessler Syndrome is Bestler Syndrome.

Except for the Space Force, that is.

[–] Etterra 18 points 6 months ago

To be fair, something like this bud scaled up would be the only realistic way to try and fight off a hypothetical extraterrestrial invasion. Once I saw it suggested we could mass-deploy Thunder Wells to fill an orbital window with a cloud of giant steel shrapnel.

A Thunder Well is literally a bore hole with a nuke in it, and a huge steel plate on top. It was done originally as and experiment and they never did find that fucking plate; it might have been vaporized, but that's nothing a little redesign couldn't fix.

Wikipedia article

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Simpsons did it already...

But really look at project Westford created a bit of stink

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_West_Ford

[–] LesserAbe 4 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the link, I hadn't heard about that before.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

HIMARS chonky uncle

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Steel balls touching each other would cold weld themselves into a clump if all touching like that. They're going to need a couple design changes.

[–] Zron 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not if they’re made on earth and exposed to the atmosphere.

The layer of iron oxide on the outside will prevent cold welding.

Or just coat them all in grease.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

All the vibration from them rubbing against each other as they achieve orbit will rub off the Oxide layer. A light oil would probably do just fine.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

It's not gay if steel balls don't touch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
[–] pete_the_cat 3 points 6 months ago

Cold welding is crazy...

[–] perviouslyiner 10 points 6 months ago

Forbidden ball pit

[–] Etterra 6 points 6 months ago

Hey y'all got any more of them dark ages?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine if this was how we tricked capitalists and climate deniers into launching the ~~UV~~ Broad Spectrum Light shielding bubbles that expand in low pressure. Classic rugpull moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But UV makes the food grow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I'm not talking about the robot uprising from the matrix, I'm referring to a potential solution to climate change. I guess UV was a dumb choice of words on my part, I'll own that.