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[–] gibmiser 65 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ISIS with a folding chair!

[–] SkyezOpen 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 119 points 7 months ago

MOSCOW (AP) — Assailants burst into a large concert hall in Moscow on Friday and sprayed the crowd with gunfire, killing over 60 people, injuring more than 100 and setting fire to the venue in a brazen attack just days after President Vladimir Putin cemented his grip on power in a highly orchestrated electoral landslide.

The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement posted on affiliated channels on social media. A U.S. intelligence official told The Associated Press that U.S. intelligence agencies had learned the group’s branch in Afghanistan was planning an attack in Moscow and shared the information with Russian officials.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-moscow-gunmen-concert-hall-injuries-fe7db5bb4ad4df17b6cbd04a3250faa1

[–] Uncle_Sheo217 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] problematicPanther 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, even after knowing what happened, I'm still confused.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Russian concert halls are very strange places.

The last time something like this happened, the police ended up killing more people than the assailants. (If I remember correctly, they locked down the place down and gassed it.)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That's it, thanks. I did try a quick search, but everything was obfuscated by current events and I was feeling extremely lazy at the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Okay i knew Russia sucked, but i didn't think it was a fucking cartoon

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Can anyone explain to me what's ISIS's beef with Russia?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Credibility alert.

Chechnya is mostly Islamic, and Russia was very unfriendly to them, killings tens of thousands of women and children, with the battle of Grozny (twice) being the crowning achievement of civilian deaths.

Syria is mostly Islamic, and Russia has been killing ISIL/ISIS soldiers (and a large number of civilians) there for for about 9 years.

And Afghanistan itself had some slight history with Russia, being at war with them for about a decade.

[–] CptEnder 18 points 7 months ago

Yeah in Syria it's one of the few times US and Russian forces have fought "alongside" each other, both against ISIS.** There were so many greenforce nations in Syria the Pentagon had to dedicate staff to coordinate with a crazy mixbag of groups - Syrian Army, FSA, Kurds, Turkish, Russians, Iraq, and even Iran to make sure no one stepped on each other's feet trying to kill ISIS. Lmao they REALLY pissed off the entire planet.

** - Russia quickly started hunting FSA people too and that's how we got the whole "US absolutely deleting Wagner forces at the oil well" incident

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just to add:

  • Syria: they also allowed Russian Islamic extremists to go fight in Syria rather than cause trouble in Russia - some of them reportedly joined ISIS
  • Dagestan
  • Sudan/Darfur
  • disproportionate recruitment of Muslim minorities for the Ukrainian front
  • violent repression of Muslim minorities
  • involvement in the Sahel + helping military regimes in Niger/Mali/Burkino Faso fight ISIS affiliated groups
  • Afghanistan: ISIS have previously attacked the Russian embassy there, saying the Taliban aren't radicals and are Russian puppets.
  • Iran: ISIS has perpetrated attacks in Iran, hates the Iranian regime. Iran is a Russian ally and provides them with drones for Ukraine, Russia in turn supports Iran.

Etc. etc. etc.

[–] psmgx 2 points 7 months ago

the Ukrainian front violent repression of Muslim minorities

An important distinction. There are a lot of ethnic minorities in Russia, and a lot of them are Muslim. The biggest groups got their own "stan" and are nominally independent now, but plenty in country.

One of the reasons Chechnya got hammered so hard in the 90s was to send a message to those groups. But they ain't happy.

[–] mojofrododojo 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least some of them are still pissed about the Afghanistan invasion in the 80s. Others are upset about Russia's support for Syria.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Don't forget indiscriminate slaughter of Chechens

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Prigozhin was their secret crush

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Daesh have beef with literally everyone that isnt themselves?

[–] nevemsenki 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Womble is a fa...