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[–] yamanii 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real, this algorithm is making people talk in a funny way to discuss anything, I cringe whenever someone has to say "unalive" or the video goes to the bottom of the feed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking newspeak. Corporate media must die

[–] orrk 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

it's not newspeak, it might be euphemisms but the meaning of what is being said is alive and well, the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 13 points 1 year ago

the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

Slowly constricting the number of words that can be publicly spoken does work us toward that end. Folks who think they're cleverly sidestepping the latest hurdle are only getting corralled deeper into the pen.

[–] stingpie 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be precise, newspeak does function by a direct reduction of vocabulary. Instead, newspeak works by expanding the number of meanings a single word can have, so that every sentence can be interpreted as supportive of the party, and the 'grammatically correct' meaning of the sentence is the supportive interpretation.

The closest approximation of newspeak in English is the sentence "That didn't work, did it?" If you respond "Yes," that can be interpreted as "Yes, you are correct, that didn't work." And if you reply "No," that can't be interpreted as "No, that didn't work."

[–] Cort 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oz response: nah, yeah it worked mate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Simple math, gotta cancel out the negative with your own negative and then affirm the positive

[–] NoSpiritAnimal 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so like how it limits the ability to convey ideas via conversation then?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Adapting language to bypass censorship is very much not Newspeak

It's quite literally the opposite of Newspeak, an artificial language designed to constrict speech and prevent the spread of complex ideas.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal 4 points 1 year ago

Adapting language to bypass censorship is one of the dictionary definitions of Newspeak, a form of circumlocution.

[–] TheGrandNagus 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That was the end goal of Newspeak, but it hadn't been achieved. It was a slow process.

You could argue this is what they're doing, training people to talk in a sterilised way. That it would become so normalised that anybody trying to speak normally would be dismissed as cringey or whatever. All to the benefit of advertisers.

Maybe that's a huge leap, but I think that was the gist of what they meant.

[–] orrk 2 points 1 year ago

avoiding certain words does not create newspeak, but rather the inability to use a limited set of words outside a given context, circumventing speech restrictions is arguably the least newspeak thing possible, as it basically makes any attempt at new speak impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's more comparable to 1337speak

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a community for the weirdest ads? I have a whole screenshot collection

[–] EvilLootbox 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love all of my content to be unsuitable for advertisers! Remember when posting on corponet to add something like this to the end of all your posts:

The products featured below have been known to cause users unexpected diarrhoea

[–] IndiBrony 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think unsuitable for advertisers is a win-win, you take up more of their storage space, costing them money, and you get to post what the fuck you want!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Except when they deem it unsuitable for advertisers, they still run ads on the video, they just don't pay the creator so Google gets 100% of the ad money

[–] Mango 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The advertisers: HEY KIDS, WANT SOME FAPPIN FURRY GACHAPON?? (dark patterns for skipping ad)

[–] Nanomerce 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that fucking fox from the bloodline ads has an entire character arc in the ads

[–] Mango 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you even notice this?

[–] Nanomerce 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because youtube shoves ads down my throat for that game

[–] Mango 2 points 1 year ago

Ah yeah, I use revanced.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No monetization from YouTube. Those with direct sponsorships and/or patreon subscribers or other donators probably make more off those other means of generating income than what Google AdSense pays out. Especially when they constantly change the rules of what can get you demonetized.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those with direct sponsorships and/or patreon subscribers or other donators probably make more off those other means of generating income than what Google AdSense pays out

True. But its only a matter of time before Patreon gets sold off, like Bandcamp was a year ago. The longer time goes on, the fewer of these alternative outlets exist, and the more people depend on a consolidated set of tools to reach their audience.

[–] Jomega 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, what happened with Bandcamp?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 1 year ago

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/17/bandcamp-lays-off-half-its-staff-after-buyout-by-songtradr

Absolute bloodbath after it was acquired by the firm with the world's largest repository of music licenses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but also the algorithm won't push their content as much either

[–] squid_slime 12 points 1 year ago

The internet is a corporate ces pit, we need to block and ignore adds and make marketing unviable, then we can reclaim our once free inherent !

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Boy born without a brain calls out to me the most out of all of these. It seems so relatable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YouTube turning into usual TV? Shocking.

[–] rabiddolphin 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate YouTube and everything about influencer culture. Peertube is our best hope against it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At which point do political ideologies get shaped by "advertiser friendliness"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Always has been.

Remember to buy merch from your favourite monetized socialist because that'll sure change things!

All ideology is a scam. Maybe we should think for ourselves?

[–] richardisaguy 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Btw, do not search for "cooking pokemon charmander"

[–] TheCheddarCheese 12 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How bad is it? I want to ruin a charmander loving friend's day but I would have to watch it with them.

[–] dipshit 2 points 1 year ago

Youtube took down a video of a cop abusing a child. they said it was child endangerment. They’re not wrong but also this is a legal issue, that was a man of the law. This should be shared far and wide.