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Why is no one being arrested for human trafficking? It's human trafficking no matter what the immigrant's legal status is.

"Increase Human Suffering" should be the 2024 RNC convention theme. That they are sending people with absolutely no notice is unconscionable. There are people and organizations all over the country who will put in effort to prepare for the arrival of these human beings, but Abbott seems to want it to be a surprise, and to further increase these people's suffering in order to try to make a political message.

Oh please. Seriously. These are people. These are human beings with family, feelings, and capable of so much love and good. What is so messed up with this party where it's an option to treat these people like pawns in some made up power grab/mines bigger competition just to make a point. The reality is it just lets the powers that be "prove" they tow party line.

Take every single federal cent Texas gets for border security, and give it to New York, Illinois, Colorado, Maryland, DC, and California instead. Since, you know, they're the ones actually dealing with it.

I’d just keep the buses. I hate civil asset forfeiture as much as anyone but if Texas wants to fund city bus system expansion, let them.

What Abbott is doing is an inhumane stunt, but there is truly a humanitarian crisis that we need to do better about. Dropping them off in NYC at midnight is not the answer but we need to do something.

Edit: do something as in provide humanitarian aid and housing, not lock them in cages and deport them.

This has been happening for years, across the country in conservative controlled states and cities, and all of the insane conservative radio talk show listeners still blame the increase of homelessness in cities they dont live in, but work in, on city policies aimed at helping the homeless.

In fact, an idea that at least was going around conservative talk radio around Seattle was that actually people who do not live in Seattle city limits, but commute in for work, should be able to vote in Seattle elections.

This is so astoundingly absurd that it hurts to think about. For one, if this went through, it would mean directlty tying ability to vote to having a job. That is astoundingly anti-democratic. For two (?), this kind of blows up the entire idea of tje American political system, as well a basically any democratic government I have ever even heard of in the last 100 years. Oh right and #3, this prioritizes commuting and car ownership basically formalizing society into a kind of caste system of car owners and non car owners.

But really the most absurd thing is that these conservative radio hosts will then flip on a dime to making some kind of 'actually i am a constitutional scholar and understander of all legal precedent of all kinds' type of persona/argument to argue for or against some other position, seemingly actually unaware of the massive hypocrisy.

In conclusion, modern American conservatism is a delusional hyper aggressive irrational death cult. They literally hate the poor and the homeless /so much/ they will abandon what were previously self professed hallmarks of their own ideology if it means they can harm those with the least in society even more.

This is such a cluster. The right is obviously doing this just to "own the libs", but really, what is the end game here? There are plenty of liberals that are seeking serious policies that address the border w/o the dumb posturing of the far right that are mostly about white supremacy. If the right was even remotely serious about immigration, they would be calling for imprisoning those that employ undocumented workers and if the right's concerns were only about economic anxiety, that would take care of most of this jibber jabber, though of course, there would still be the matter of asylum seekers.

How many on the right are doing this, though?

It's so hard to have a serious conversation about this. Of course, the very fringes of the left (and they are probably a very tiny, but overly vocal minority that make it easy for the far right to point at the most ridiculous examples and say we are all like this) don't help by painting everything as being a simplistic white=bad, POC=good. I would argue nearly everyone wants some control of our borders and who gets in and how they are vetted and most of this sentiment is not racially motivated. It's just a matter of degrees as to how much control, how many people and so on.

When it comes to asylum seekers, the right almost universally refuses to consider the holistic picture and America's hand in creating the outcomes of having asylum seekers in the first place...

Gregg Abbott is a human trafficker that won't be prosecuted for breaking the law because he is above it. If you or I committed the same crime we would be in jail.

I see in the comments someone mentioned Civil Asset Forfeiture. Yes, take the buses and make the companies providing them prove they were not involved in a crime. Bus companies will stop providing them. Do the same with the planes.

Blue cities and states should embrace the migrants. Form an economic pact, where they help fund basic communal housing for the new arrivals. They can even help build future units. Many of them are from areas so poor it would seem like luxury. Give them work for the state and city as much as possible. You would be hard pressed to find more dedicated harder workers than many of these immigrants. It would help reduce budgets and worker shortages. And in a generation or two your population will grow massively along with your local economy. Take the lemons and make lemonade. I'd gladly take a lot of them over the fashy psychotic neighbors I already have.

I can't imagine Texas is actually going to care about the rules. What happens when a bus shows up outside specified hours or without the required notice? Is NY going to send them back or make them wait on the bus until the right time?

Last I heard Texas was having migrants flown into Blue states. I guess the buses were too fiscally responsible and we gotta do something with the budget surplus.

Time to transfer federal funding from Texas to the states receiving these rogue busses. These welfare states really need a reminder on what's keeping them functioning to begin with.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Frustrated by “rogue buses” from Texas dropping off migrants by the thousands, the mayors of New York, Chicago and Denver are trying to slow the surge by requiring the bus operators to coordinate arrivals under the threat of impound, fines and even jail time.

“We’re saying that between a certain period of time you are allowed to drop off migrants in the city, but you’re going to do it at the location that we specified, so we don’t overtax our resources, our manpower, and create this orderly environment,” Adams said on CNN.

“The inhumane treatment further endangers the safety and security of asylum seekers, and adds additional strain to city departments, volunteers and mutual aid partners tasked with easing what is already a harsh transition.”

Surrounding Chicago communities are also trying to control the influx, requiring buses to obtain a permit before dropping off migrants, like in the village of Elburn, an hour outside the city.

Earlier this month, 38 migrants arrived at the Elburn stop on the commuter rail system in the Chicago metropolitan area, and were accompanied by a security guard, liaison and bus driver, according to the minutes from the village board meeting December 27.

Denver is working to put emergency rules into place that limit drop-offs from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday, Fuja said, to ensure city staff is available to support migrants as they arrive and help them get to shelter.

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