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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by squid_slime to c/asklemmy
 

Wondering how much of the Lemmy user base wouldn't use an adblocker. If you do use one what other blocking do you use to circumvent data collection, YouTube and reddit front ends and things alike?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t block anything. I work in accessibility, so it’s important to me to know what the experiences are like for my fellow users with disabilities. I also don’t want to recommend sites or apps that are riddled with inaccessible ads. I’d rather not give them traffic at all. Though even though I let them track me, I still get ads in a language I don’t speak for cars I can’t drive. What’re they doing with all that data?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So me seeing ads in random languages is not me being clever with identity obfuscation, but big data being big stupid?

And thank you for your work in accessibility 🫡

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[–] cley_faye 49 points 1 year ago (7 children)

A lot of people. For many, it's not even something they know exist. Even setting it up for them is a bother because of the occasional site it breaks, and the complete lack of technical awareness.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know some of family don't because they mostly rely on mobile devices and devices like Chromecasts where installing ad blockers can be a challenge. They don't use traditional computers.

They know apps like NewPipe exist but the effort to port things over or not get recommendations is too much for them.


I do use ad blockers and open source front ends/software/alternatives. Ex. AntennaPod instead of Spotify for podcasts and Linux instead of Windows because I didn't like ads in the start menu (amongst numerous other things).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so proud of my kids who will demand adblockers if something in their YouTube app or their browser is broken. Even though they like to see toy ads now and then. But when they get the amount a regular mortal receives it's too much, even for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get you. I like receiving honest real reviews for things rather than be advertised to. Let their quality speak for it. I also hate even minor spoilers for movies/TV shows/video game that you see in trailers.

[–] Viking_Hippie 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use uBlock Origin and Consent-o-Matic. Works like a charm!

[–] RazorsLedge 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consent o matic is a new one for me. Thanks!

[–] Viking_Hippie 10 points 1 year ago

You're very welcome!

[–] themurphy 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One question though.

Can't you enable a filter list on uBlock Origin that removes all cookie consents?

I think I have it on. It's under "Annoyances". Maybe it's not as good since you have them both?

[–] Viking_Hippie 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sure there is, but tbh I don't know how, since I don't need it.

The way Consent-o-Matic works is that it accepts all, securely deletes all of it immediately before it can do anything. That way the site thinks you have all of it so it won't ask again, but you actually get none of it.

All this plus removing the consent- and other pop-ups for you. A few of the nastier pop-ups might be on your screen for a tenth of a second or less as Consent-o-Matic gets rid of it for you, but otherwise it's like they were never there to begin with!

[–] victorz 6 points 1 year ago

Does it work better than "I don't care about cookies", if you've tried both?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The biggest thing I miss from seeing ads is knowing what movies are in theaters... And I never think about looking haha.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My mom uses Edge, told me not to block Facebook ads and clicks on most of the clickbait articles on her MSN home page. It's like she WANTS them to collect as much data to sell and spy on her as much as possible 🤦

[–] themurphy 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You'll be surprised how many people likes ads, and likes how much they know about you.

I don't agree, but I can see the logic in that. If you see ads anyway, why not see them specialised to you making them somewhat relevant.

Awful take I know, but it's the reality for many people.

[–] GoosLife 7 points 1 year ago

That's not necessarily an awful take, to be fair. That is arguably to the benefit of the consumer, that they can learn about products that are relevant to them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm completely disconnected from what new movies and TV shows come out after years of blocking all ads. I can see wanting to change but ads have only gotten more annoying so I have no desire to change yet

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I have AdNauseum on with the "Hide Ads" button unchecked and "leave non-tracking ads alone" option enabled. Privacy Badger is on too to detect tracking scripts.

I can safely ignore ads generally but what I want is to discourage the practice of annoying placements to farm clicks. If they want clicks then they can have as many of my fake ones as they wish.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

If you do use one what other blocking do you use to circumvent data collection, YouTube and reddit front ends and things alike?

Firefox on maximum security will get rid of all cookies when you close the window (ie exit from Firefox, not just close the tab). If there are sites that require cookies, you can use Firefox containers to stop it collecting data across other sites).

I do use adblockers but there are sites which deserve the revenue (and don't bombard you with shite) so I try to remember to whitelist them. But I'm not as diligent about this as I should be. Someone does have to pay for it and we don't have a decent system to do that without advertising (yet). I can't subscribe to the eleventy million sites I visit so advertising is a necessary evil (atm). Obviously, denying bad sites the advertising revenue is a public service, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lady I used to sit next to at work didn't use an ad blocker. She also would have like the "do you want to install this plugin?" thing open in her ide for weeks. I don't know how she did it. She's a software developer so she's reasonably tech literate. It just didn't bother her enough to think about doing something about it.

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[–] Tolstoy 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By default I'm using adblocker but when I notice I'm visiting a new site more frequently like wikis for games, I disable it and keep it off if the site is usable.

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[–] ExtraMedicated 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't bothered yet because I don't really frequent the types of sites where the ads get in the way (although my occasional Youtube visits are starting to convince me to use one).

I do use a plugin made by the EFF that blocks certain tracking cookies though.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

If you do use one what other blocking do you productively use to circumvent data collection, YouTube and reddit front ends and things alike?

I use an ad blocker, and in addition also use Pi-hole for network-wide domain based tracker blocking. I use tailscale to use this on my phone, but also have Tracker Control (the real version installed from F-Droid) to do something similar if for some reason I need to disable Tailscale (only one can be used at once, as they both use the VPN method).

[–] 7355608 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I asked a friend of mine about this recently and she told me it was because it helps her kids learn patience.

That got me thinking about it, I personally learned a rather large amount of patience because of ads when I was growing up so it made a lot of sense to me.

[–] AtariDump 16 points 1 year ago

Ads growing up didn’t track you all over the internet.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ads teach people patience? That is the worst justification for ads I've ever heard. She's probably in the advertisement industry so she's pro-ads.

or she's not computer literate enough to install ad blockers and too proud to admit her lack of computer literacy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit, this is worse than reddit lately. You read an anecdote about a lady, made up her whole life and got angry about what you just made up. Fucking hell.

[–] cjsolx 6 points 1 year ago

And as the coup de grâce, their name is LemmyKnowsBest.

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[–] Mango 8 points 1 year ago

People who aren't trying.

Because.

[–] slazer2au 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My wife, she plays mobile games where you get temporary boosts if you watch an ad.

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[–] Rhynoplaz 6 points 1 year ago

I don't. I know they exist, and I could probably have one set up in under ten minutes, but I just don't care.

And I know what they do. I know what they collect. I used to sell online ads for the local paper, geomapping and all that shit. They still know.

[–] 13esq 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just don't usually find ads to be intrusive enough to have blocking them be worthwhile.

As others have said, I don't mind supporting small content creators by watching the ads.

Edit: imagine getting downvoted for an honest answer lol. So sorry that you don't like my opinion!

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