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[–] [email protected] 195 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Really wild to see MTG appear to be on the correct side twice in a week. I wonder what the goal of the party is aside from distancing themselves from a losing candidate.

[–] JesusSon 169 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (9 children)

I think she woke up and realized a government shutdown right before an election caused by ineffectual republican leadership might hurt them in the down-ballot. Or we woke up Sunday on the next timeline because the earth exploded, and everyone died Saturday night. It's been a crazy week and it's only Tuesday.

Edit: looks like a shutdown before the election due to ineffectual republican leadership is back on the menu boys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)
[–] JesusSon 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I must have slept through it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

It appears you CAN spell Jesus without "us".

[–] CoggyMcFee 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It makes logical sense for a person to draw this conclusion, but MTG is famously an idiot, so that’s what’s baffling. What convinced her to change her tune?

[–] Wilmo 3 points 8 hours ago

The checks stopped clearing?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I mean yeah that's sound political strategy, but you're telling me MTG woke up and possessed the self reflection necessary to realize that?

I think it's more believable that we all died.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Mitch McConnell made a statement of how stupid and damaging a shutdown would be for them. I would bet she is just listening to the wise turtle.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Basically this - conservatives are great at understanding problems, once the problems affect them personally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tell that to the MAGA working class

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 1 points 7 hours ago

Clarification : it has to impinge directly on their ego.

[–] JesusSon 19 points 2 days ago
[–] NegativeLookBehind 5 points 1 day ago

Can confirm, am dead.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think this is absolutely the correct interpretation of this. Shutting down the government because repubs don't want to play ball weeks before an election is only likely to hurt their chances.

[–] Brunbrun6766 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but they do this every election year, and their supporters never care

[–] chronicledmonocle 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't until their social security checks stop flowing.

[–] negativenull 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

KEEP ~~GOVT~~ OUT of MY MEDICARE

Another accidentally prudent statement.

[–] Rakonat 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you're putting far to much faith in people willing to vote (R), their base would vote for them even as their families are sent to labor and death camps, while undecided and 'independent' voters will cast their ballot entirely on the last headline or 72 hours.

To me this reeks of Greene and other Magots realizing their wing of the party is imploding and will have to find a place in what ever GOP comes out the otherside of this election and the next midterm. Trump's decline makes it pretty obvious they need someone else's coattails to grab onto and rally around, so she's trying to be the loudest voice in the room to be part of the new power structure if not the face of it.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh 3 points 1 day ago

It matters very little if I or any of us have faith in the republican voter base and rather it matters if the Republican leadership thinks it could matter to a significant enough portion of their base that they should avoid a shutdown.

Also, I find the rest of your comment to be quite insightful. I do think most of the Republican leadership are still all in on Trump, however I wouldn't be surprised if there some back up plans in the works.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Or she's jealous that someone else is fucking Trump so she's causing problems.

[–] ultranaut 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly it. Shutdowns are not popular, if they shutdown the gov before the election it is going to cost them significant votes. They are already worried about the impact of Trump on down ballot candidates, a shutdown will almost certainly cost them seats. This is MTG expressing her panic because she realizes how stupid the GOP is behaving with an election about to happen.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What surprises me the most is that out of all the Republicans, it's her that realizes how stupid this is.

[–] billiam0202 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course she does.

She's terrified that if the Dems take the House back, she'll lose her committee seats again. Like all small-government advocates, she wants power.

[–] grue 6 points 2 days ago

Ah, thank you. Considering what a shithole "safe"-ly red district she represents, I didn't think she had any particular reason to care even with vote losses from a shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

She was told to do this. There is no realization.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Earth exploding and everyone waking up in a new timeline, having absorbed our prime selves, is somehow more likely now than it was 5 years ago.

[–] dirthawker0 2 points 1 day ago

Have we been absolved of Harambe?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

No way she is involved in the Russian election interference case and is trying to pull a tim pool

[–] Tylerdurdon 2 points 2 days ago

I vote for this!

[–] SassyRamen 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Putin said he wants Harris to win, she took that literally 😂

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

haha. beautiful

[–] Rakonat 7 points 1 day ago

Putin consistently underestimates women. He was happy Hillary was secretary of state until she gave vocal support to the Ukrainian Revolutions in 2014 that ousted his puppet. He assumed CIA was pulling her strings or operating through her so tried to burn that bridge. Trump was a resounding failure at implementing long term policies to benefit Russia, so now he's banking on Harris being passive in foreign policy.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

She might've been hit by a stray neutrino or something? Flipped a random bit?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

LOL how many bits is MTGOS anyway...

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is she trying to distance herself from the maga side of the party after seeing the polls predicting a big defeat this election?

Very strange to see.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My spitball theory is that she sees this new Loomer person coming to eat her lunch as token crazy maga lady, so she's trying to get off her sinking ship.

[–] DrSleepless 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Loomer is Trump’s side piece

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Priority #1 is always to remain elected so that you can stay "on the take".

[–] Bdtrngl 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She doesn't want to miss a paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Congress always gets paid. They're "essential."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I wonder if there's any way that could be changed by executive action? If the government gets shut down, Congresspersons don't get paid. Their aides and support staff are essential because they do the real work, but they don't get paid until they pass a budget....?