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A Milwaukee woman has been jailed for 11 years for killing the man that prosecutors said had sex trafficked her as a teenager. 

The sentence, issued on Monday, ends a six-year legal battle for Chrystul Kizer, now 24, who had argued she should be immune from prosecution. 

Kizer was charged with reckless homicide for shooting Randall Volar, 34, in 2018 when she was 17. She accepted a plea deal earlier this year to avoid a life sentence.

Volar had been filming his sexual abuse of Kizer for more than a year before he was killed.

Kizer said she met Volar when she was 16, and that the man sexually assaulted her while giving her cash and gifts. She said he also made money by selling her to other men for sex.

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[–] dotdi 312 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I am outraged, a plea deal to avoid life imprisonment? What the fuck did I just read?!

This guy trafficked, raped and tortured her, and other underage women. Police did jack shit. And she was supposed to be watching him just walk away? Grotesque.

[–] [email protected] 231 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Any jailtime is ridiculous. She's been in prison for 8 years. The judge had a chance to try and rebuild her life, but they gave her punishment for getting trapped in a bad situation. What's the issue, does the judge think she's going to go out and start shooting other rapists and traffickers?

[–] RestlessNotions 123 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If this was how my cards were dealt, I would likely make it my life's mission.

This country certainly goes all in for cruel and unusual punishment.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What’s the issue, does the judge think she’s going to go out and start shooting other rapists and traffickers?

The issue is that the patriarchy must uphold rape culture, and that the absence of justice for rape survivors is a feature of that, not a bug, and the courts can't have that power taken away from them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Could it be the judge more cares about being the one to impose sentences and doesn’t like others doing it?

Like, it’s easy to see this same decision happening even in a non-patriarchal context - at least for me.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

That's the bottom line, yeah.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 17 points 3 months ago

This is a good point. Prison is supposed to be rehabilitation. But how can you rehabilitate someone who has run out of targets. Plus if she has been in 8 years as you say. Time served. I am guessing she had a public defender who gave her bad advice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think the judge did have that chance if I'm honest.

Despite her understandable motive, the fact is that she murdered the guy.

[–] thejoker954 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it would be easy to prove that she suffered a mental break at most and get mental help instead of jail.

This is a shitty corrupt judge in a shitty corrupt system.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm certain that even the worst lawyer in history would have considered this angle if it were viable.

[–] thejoker954 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dont know how it could be argued anyone was in their right mind after going through what she went through.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Obviously she wasn't in her "right mind" but that doesn't mean she had no capacity to understand that killing someone is murder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or she decided to end the threat to her before he hurt her again. Self defense is generally not considered murder and rapists get, what, 5 years in prison in this country then go on to rape more? If convicted at all?

I can easily see where she felt like she had no other choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

As I've said many times, her actions are understandable and in her situation I'd probably do the same, cognisant that I would face the consequences of my crime.

You can frame her actions as self defense if you wish, but they do not meet the legal definition of self defense because there was no clear and present threat to her person at the time she planned and perpetrated the murder.

[–] techt 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly what jury nullification is for

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With or without a jury, the inescapable fact is that she murdered him.

[–] techt 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, that's my point -- jury nullification is the mechanism by which juries find that a crime was committed by the letter of the law but the defendent is not guilty.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Interesting. I'd never heard of this.

A quick read of this wikipedia article makes it sound very sovereign citizen.

This part is particularly salient:

…by clearly stating to the jury that they may disregard the law, telling them that they may decide according to their prejudices or consciences (for there is no check to ensure that the judgment is based upon conscience rather than prejudice), we would indeed be negating the rule of law in favor of the rule of lawlessness. This should not be allowed.

Basically, a jury's one job is to determine whether, based on the facts, a person committed a crime. "Jury Nullification" is a perversion of that role. It may be "just" but it's not justice.

If Jury Nullification is a thing, then essentially juries can decide the law in any given case. What's the point of laws? You could just have public kangaroo courts where citizens decide the fate of the accused based on the vibe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

If Jury Nullification is a thing, then essentially juries can decide the law in any given case. What's the point of laws? You could just have public kangaroo courts where citizens decide the fate of the accused based on the vibe.

That's basically what white juries have been doing for the KKK since Reconstruction. One reasonable argument for nullification is that dishonest jurors will just vote "not guilty" anyways and aren't required to justify their reasoning. So nullification tips the scales to give honest jurors the same power to acquit a woman who didn't do anything morally wrong.

If the races involved were reversed, she'd be walking free.

[–] Katana314 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your summary seems to imply that whatever happens to currently be written into law is considered "justice". But we've always known that the law is not perfect and needs constant corrections for true fairness.

Jurors, laws, judges, witnesses, none of them are perfect. Each has stoked fears that they will overpower the rights of the others. Courts do their best to have each balancing the power of the other.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Justice is a tricky word because it can mean justice as in a fair and equitable outcome or it can mean justice as in the outcome provided by the established justice system which we both know is frequently "un-just".

If you read what I wrote as "whatever outcome the law provides is just" then either I've explained myself very poorly or you've misunderstood.

Jurors, laws, judges, witnesses, none of them are perfect. Each has stoked fears that they will overpower the rights of the others. Courts do their best to have each balancing the power of the other.

I don't disagree with any of this. The manner in which power is balanced is to segregate the role of the different components of the court. It is the role of the jury to determine whether the defendant is guilty of the crimes they are charged with. If a Jury is allowed to determine whether the punishment for the defendant's crimes is reasonable given the circumstances then that jury has all the power, and there is no balance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sov Cits try to use it all the time but it usually doesn’t work for them.

However it has been used to prevent convictions for unfair laws in the past. Juries used to use it to prevent people who harbored escaping slaves from being convicted for example.

[–] techt 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have experience with it personally, only heard about it from a possibility perspective -- apparently prosecutors do a very thorough job screening jurors to make sure that never happens. Just knowing about jury nullification can get you dismissed. I don't think you're off the mark with that read, but where I think it comes back from kangaroo court and sov cit land is all jurors have to agree, even one objection to a nullification would stop it; if twelve strangers all agree, there's probably some merit to it. But, certainly can be abused in the wrong hands.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just knowing about jury nullification can get you dismissed

That's because it's not really a thing.

The jury doesn't have the option of finding guilty, or not guilty, or nullify.

If you ask a potential juror, "will you do your job of finding the accused guilty or not guilty?" and their answer is "what about nullification?" then they're basically telling you that they do not understand the requirement and are incapable of performing the job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nullification is finding them not guilty, in this case due to the whole story.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

It's not, it's saying they are not guilty in order to avoid penalties for the defendant, despite knowing that they perpetrated the crime. That is quite obviously a perversion of the court.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't the judge then be in the line of fire, technically, as well as those that own him?

[–] RestrictedAccount 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who is the f’ing prosecutor?

[–] 11111one11111 -1 points 3 months ago

Someone who understands she was free from the person who was trafficking her and she sought them out and killed them. Yeah it's glorious justice on the big screen but in the actual legal system this is vigilante justice.

In my state under the Castle Act or whatever it's called, someone can break into your house, threaten you and your family's life but until you prove your ability to flee was prevented physically you cannot fire a weapon for protection regardless of intent to scare, injure or kill.

That is the framework used by our legal system to prosecute cases of self defense. You as a citizen cannot take the law into your own hands like the defendant did. No matter how justified it may seem.

[–] venusaur 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t understand why she wasn’t tried as a minor

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most 17 year olds charge with murder, or some variation of killing someone, aren't charged as minors. That's not taking a position on this specific case, it's just a fact.

[–] venusaur 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They need to re-evaluate that especially in cases where somebody has been robbed of years of development like this one

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Totally agree. Mitigating circumstances, absolutely. Self defense, nope. There should be some punishment. What that should be, I do not know.