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[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it's any decent brand it's lifetime warranty little questions asked.

[–] Zeon 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Oh wow I didn't know that. They're from Crucial / Micron, also its DDR3L ECC RAM (8GB x 4) so hopefully they'll accept. Thank you for the information!

[–] halcyoncmdr 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://www.crucial.com/company/warranty

Looks like it's either a lifetime, or 10-year warranty depending on the model type.

[–] meekah 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Even if it's just 10 years there's a decent chance it's still covered. DDR4 came out just 9 years ago and there was a period where both were used commonly. Not sure how this applies to ECC, though

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't know about Crucial, but Corsair was like that when I needed it a few years ago.

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[–] Treczoks 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pin D10 tied to a high. Seen that, got my soldering people fix that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm very curious how you figured that out from the screen shot?

[–] Hamknight 27 points 8 months ago

Every value is off by the same amount

[–] ComradePorkRoll 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're a fucking wizard that one.

[–] Treczoks 2 points 8 months ago

Na, I just know how these things tick. I've written a RAM test for my system, and had to diagnose to one or other production error in my lifetime.

[–] Treczoks 2 points 8 months ago

I wrote a RAM test for my system, and had to diagnose quite a few badly soldered boards. I leave the soldering to the specialists, though. All but one still does not understand how I can read "Resolder pin 14 from chip J11" or "Clean short between pins 8 and 9 on chip J14" from such a list.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel like a surprising number of people struggle with the meaning of "mildly"...

[–] blocker1980 3 points 8 months ago

They always have

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

DDR3 was really hard to find the last time I went shopping for RAM.

I bet you can get at least another 5 more years out of that computer.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/65726/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1275-v2-8m-cache-3-50-ghz.html

[–] Zeon 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This is actually a new build I just made with a Libreboot motherboard. I'm trying to turn it into a gaming computer, it ran GTA V at 70-80FPS, all high settings, at 1440p. It was working flawlessly, and for some reason now its not I suppose due to the RAM.

But even with this RAM, in the beginning it was working just fine until yesterday I started noticing more stuttering. Vulkan shaders might be interfering, but I did enable them to process in the background and to save the cache but nope, still stuttering.

I was hoping to do a benchmark video for people tonight but I'll have to wait until later next week.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cool. You might check and double check the RAM timings. My machine did not like to run at 1600.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Looks like there's actually a stuck bit in those memory values. Might be more than just an unstable clock.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I really only know enough about hardware to get by. I am working through nand2tetris though.

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[–] AgentGrimstone 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Red means good, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Well that's really not a surprise since it is old hardware. I would go for something newer as that machine is a space heater. You can pickup used mini PCs or workstations with newer CPUs in them.

[–] Zeon 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well, this build is specifically for gaming with Libreboot so due to the limitations with the motherboard I'm stuck using the Xeon processor. Its not bad tbh runs everything well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Assuming you're in the northern hemisphere: For this winter it's fine. It'll gently heat your home while you game like it's 1999. No worries 😁

However, once it starts to warm up you'll want to send that motherboard+RAM+CPU to your local HAZMAT trash pickup/facility and get something newer. Might I suggest a nice 2020-ish desktop CPU? With a motherboard that supports Coreboot, of course!

https://doc.coreboot.org/mainboard/index.html

...and get yourself a nice Nvidia (sadly, because AMD and Intel are still far behind) GPU with at least 12GB of VRAM so you can have fun with the open source AI stuff (it's a blast!). The more VRAM the better though so if you can pick up a 4060 Ti with 16GB cheap this spring that'll be your best budget buy (endless uncensored fun) 👍

Seriously: If you haven't got the hardware to run Stable Diffusion locally you're missing out! It's as fun and addicting as a really good game. Running it on some cloud service isn't the same because at best they'll be running stuff that's weeks or months out of date (which is like a million years in AI time) and they don't give you the same level of control/possibilities that you get when running your own stuff locally (run whatever models/LoRAs you want, whatever extensions you want, generating images without having to worry about overbearing censorship because it is that bad on public AI services--paid or not!).

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[–] victorz 2 points 8 months ago

Define "everything". Everything installed?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Friendly reminder to run memtest the whole night long and not just a couple of hours, in case the defect is intermittent (it has happened to me).

[–] Zeon 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have not run the whole test yet, I will do that. Thank you for the advice!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShitOnABrick 4 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

DDR3 is a lot cheaper on Amazon.

[–] sizzler 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The cost is having to support amazon though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, it's not like making your life harder is going to kill Amazon, though. My lesbian co-worker and lesbian sister eat chik-fil-a sometimes for the same reason.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Never buy electronics or related stuff from ebay. Never.

[–] RanchOnPancakes 3 points 8 months ago
[–] NightAuthor 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, at least they tested it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I remember testing ram by compiling the Linux kernel. It was so resource intensive that it tended to use every block of memory, so if I was getting weird crashes or something I would just run a kernel build and see if I needed better diagnostics.

[–] naticus 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I found out about 2 months ago I had a dead stick because of my Arch install. I kept having data integrity problems and thought my NVMe was dying. And then the other drive was having the same issues. I had reinstalled Arch so many times during this that I memorized ALL the steps from start to end. I really wish I had tested RAM earlier, but was so determined to believe it was the drives.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

What a creative way to test memory. nice :)

[–] ShitOnABrick 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

No, don't rip! Gently remove the bad RAM from the PC.

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