Fucking racists bawling like babies because their valorization of traitors is going to be removed.
I don't know a single other country that has monuments to the losing side of a civil war.
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They still view the South as righteous. In Texas growing up I had history teachers refer to it as the war of northern aggression
I heard it referred to as "the war between the states," and that was at a deeply conservative religious private school.
Deliberately miseducating children is reprehensible behavior.
Which states rights? The right to do what, exactly?
Yeah even as a kid I found this whole “fundamental disagreement about how to run a state” argument to be nonsense
To keep slaves is the simple answer. More nuanced is that the southern states seceded because several "non-slaveholding" states refuse to follow federal law and return escaped slaves and the federal government refused to enforce those laws. (a good call)
There were a bunch of issues wrapped up in the road to civil war, but they were almost all related to slavery.
Who can forget when the garrison at Fort Sumpter aggressively followed their orders by not leaving when ordered to by a group of people with no authority. Those yank soldiers were standing there, MENACINGLY!
Don’t ask me who shot first
My honors US history professor taught us the Civil War was all about trade. Well, yeah, that was certainly an important part, Northern industry vs. agrarian South. It was a huge part of the war, both how it started and how it played out.
By FFS, did the man never read the various states letters of succession?! Here go a few.
And seriously people, read those letters. Don't clap yourself on the back for regurgitating, "It was SLAVERY!" Come at it from a learned point of view or you're no better than anyone else talking shit.
I'll bet they all consider themselves "patriots" too... Maybe they are, just not for the country they live in.
For a country that had a shorter existence than Ghostbuster's cereal.
Hey now the Confederacy was at least 4 Santos's
Whose term in office was shorter than the recommended shelf life for coconut oil stored at room temp.
For about 1/10th of a second I thought, "Well, maybe not so inappropriate at Arlington. It is a place dedicated to fallen American warriors, even if they lost fighting the Union."
The statue, unveiled in 1914, features a bronze woman, crowned with olive leaves, standing on a 32-foot pedestal, and was designed to represent the American South. According to Arlington, the woman holds a laurel wreath, a plow stock and a pruning hook, with a Biblical inscription at her feet that says: “They have beat their swords into plough-shares and their spears into pruning hooks.”
Meh, not so bad. I kinda like the idea there.
Some of the figures also on the statue include a Black woman depicted as “Mammy” holding what is said to be the child of a white officer, and an enslaved man following his owner to war.
LOL my god. We're done here. Drop that shit in the Marianna Trench.
Yeah, I could even understand defending a statue of Lee. I disagree with it, but I understand it.
"A statue of a slave following his owner into battle" is all we needed to hear for this one. The rest is bad, but that's indefensible.
Drop that shit in the Marianna Trench.
I wouldn't want the creatures in the Marianna Trench to think we're endorsing that kind of thing. Although, we arguably deserve an eldritch horror from the deep surfacing to judge us for our evil deeds.
Yeah. We need to drop it into mount doom.
Edit: apparently the Iceland volcano just started erupting. This is clearly a sign to drop it in that volcano.
Losers crying that someone wants to take away their participation trophy.
Why the fuck is a Confederate memorial in Arlington in the first place?
There's an article, but the tldr is... In 1906, 51 years after the losers lost, the daughters of the confederacy wanted to remind Black people where their place was.
Because of people who didn't like that they lost
One of the finest Twitter posts I've seen in life.
That is something I missed, thank you for bringing this to my attention, shame it didn't go to the ground.
Still laughing about that one! One of the few memes I've saved because it was so on point.
Just vandalize it beyond repair. Problem solved.
If it is bronze, cheap spaghetti sauce will ruin it and there isn't any known way to reverse the damage.
Why are some GOP lawmakers supporting a monument built for traitors and racists? If it is about heritage, then why are you proud of a traitorous heritage? If it's simply not to wipe away history then why can't they just follow their plan of putting it in a museum?
Hopefully that museum shows it in a context that does not glorify a bunch of insurrectionist slaver garbage.
The actual descendants of the original sculptor even want it gone. Washington Post, Descendants of Rebel sculptor: Remove Confederate Memorial from Arlington National Cemetery, 2017
Now a group claiming ancestry from a Confederate veteran named Moses Jacob Ezekiel, who was a renowned sculptor in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, is asking that one of his most prominent works be taken down.
Twenty-two people in the Ezekiel family — ages 20 to 90 — from across the country signed the letter calling for the Confederate Memorial’s removal from Arlington.
“All of us agree that monuments to the Confederacy are racist justifications of slavery, of owning people,” she said Friday in a telephone interview. “We wanted to say that although Ezekiel is a relative of ours, we still believe it’s a relic of a racist past.”
Let's not forget Trump vetoed the Bill that was overridden by Congress that allowed this to happen.
"quickly". The report listing that it was being removed came out 15 months ago.
I don't think these people read good.
What is this bullshit?
Watch, someone's going to deface it in the middle of the night so they have no choice.
Go to the local Italian restaurant, wait for a serving of marinara to be tossed, and you have a cheap way to permanently hurt the statue.
Traitorous judge tries to stall removal of traitor's monument.
I don't know the judge, but it seems more like they're just following procedure right now. If they end up ruling to keep it in place, that's another matter.