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UPenn's Liz Magill voluntarily resigned after she faced widespread criticism for appearing to dodge a question at a congressional hearing about campus antisemitism.

House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y. — who recently went viral for engaging in a contentious exchange with university presidents at a congressional hearing on antisemitism — on Saturday praised the resignation of University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill.

“One down. Two to go,” Stefanik wrote on X. “This is only the very beginning of addressing the pervasive rot of antisemitism that has destroyed the most ‘prestigious’ higher education institutions in America.”

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[–] FlowVoid 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Strange, by my count it's two down: Santos and McCarthy. Just Stefanik is left to go.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Riccosuave 45 points 1 year ago

Notice that this stupid fucking cunt has zero issues supporting Donald Trump's absolute and unequivocal right to free speech regardless how violent or psychopathic his rhetoric may be. This has nothing to do with employing moral consistency in dealing with complex free speech issues because these people have no fucking morals to begin with. All they understand is remaining in power, and saber rattling in order to rile up their base of knuckle-dragging constituents.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The good ol' "Grill someone until they slip up and say something that can be used as a soundbite."

[–] Jessvj93 8 points 1 year ago

Ahh Antisemitism flavored Mccarthyism, on the rocks please!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"In a contention exchange at the House Education and the Workforce Committee hearing on antisemitism on college campuses, Stefanik asked Magill, Claudine Gay of Harvard and Sally Kornbluth of MIT whether "calling for the genocide of Jews" would violate the codes of conduct at their schools. "

Easy answer: Yes, just as calling for any genocide such as genocide of the Palestinian people. Yes, that would violate the codes of conduct at our school.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was an incredibly stupid showing, but to speak to their perspective, the question they thought they were answering was "Does a call to genocide violate First Amendment protections of free speech, to which universities are somewhat bound in order to receive federal funding?", and the answer to that question, strictly legally, is indeed no. The government cannot punish someone for calls to genocide. The threshold for criminalizing speech is incredibly high, and anything short of "Go kill these specific Jews!" is generally going to be protected speech. In the context of trying to minimize any possible legal exposure, this was essentially the correct answer.

That said, it's unconscionably stupid that the presidents did not realize that they were in a Congressional hearing, not a courtroom, and that in that context, they were not speaking to a judge but rather to a glorified hostile PR agent. It would not have been hard to give an unambiguous "yes" response, and then only if pressed wade into some of the nuance of what necessarily counts as a call to genocide, since that it legitimately a complex question.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly.

"I, and the university abhor hate speech and antisemitism. Such things are unwelcome on campus.

That said, I would have to confer with the university legal council, and law enforcement to understand events in a case by case basis to ensure we do what we must to keep students and faculty safe. As president it is my job to understand the concerns of my staff and students, and to follow the guidance of experts in their respective fields. With those elements in hand I provide leadership in challenging times. It would be imprudent for me to take action unilaterally without my team."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"why can't you just say yes or no?" will be the whine. It'll be followed up with the "why do you love genocide?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"adult questions often require more than a yes or no, even if prompted as such. Genocide is abhorrent and hate is not welcome on campus. I have no further reply than that"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, then she needs to call Ronnie on the carpet, too:

You know who Ron DeSantis doesn't shoo away? Nazis.

[–] jordanlund 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone have a link to what was actually said? I see lots of articles talking about it, but I'd like a transcript.

[–] ikidd 2 points 1 year ago

She probably failed to fellate Israel, as is expected from everyone in a vulnerable position such as "having a job".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“These universities can anticipate a robust and comprehensive Congressional investigation of all facets of their institutions negligent perpetration of antisemitism including administrative, faculty, funding, and overall leadership and governance.”

In a contention exchange at the House Education and the Workforce Committee hearing on antisemitism on college campuses, Stefanik asked Magill, Claudine Gay of Harvard and Sally Kornbluth of MIT whether "calling for the genocide of Jews" would violate the codes of conduct at their schools.

After the hearing, the GOP-led committee launched an investigation into universities’ efforts to combat growing violence and threats against Jews on college campuses.

President Magill had three chances to set the record straight when asked if calling for the genocide of Jews violated UPenn’s code of conduct during our hearing on antisemitism,” she said.

“What’s more shocking is that it took her more than 24 hours to clarify her comments, and even that clarification failed to include an apology to the Jewish students who do not feel safe on campus.

“She has done excellent work in leading our community, including in addressing antisemitism, Islamophobia, and other forms of hate, all of which we reject utterly at MIT.


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[–] inclementimmigrant -2 points 1 year ago

More than two if your looking to get rid of people in leadership positions who give antisemites a pass. Maybe she should get her hypocritical ass on those who support Nick Fuentes.