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[–] TheGIGAcapitalist 92 points 7 months ago (7 children)

"He says he will require local law enforcement agencies that receive Justice Department grants to use controversial policing measures such as stop-and-frisk. As a deterrent, he says local police should be empowered to shoot suspected shoplifters in the act. “Very simply, if you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store,” he said in one recent speech."

Literally just wants to turn it into a shithole country. Skipping chopping hands off and just skip to execution.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So out of curiosity, what does he say should happen to people who defraud banks and other investors by falsifying documents and ledgers?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should be sentenced to 50 weeks at a Trump golf club.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive 11 points 7 months ago

Surprisingly they get sent to bed early with a hot toddy and a BJ.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Sounds like they have money and as such should be above the law.

[–] partial_accumen 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

He says he will require local law enforcement agencies that receive Justice Department grants to use controversial policing measures such as stop-and-frisk.

So he wants to suspend/dismiss US Citizen's 4th Amendment right (as ruled by the US Supreme Court in Terry v. Ohio).

As a deterrent, he says local police should be empowered to shoot suspected shoplifters in the act.

And he wants to suspend/dismiss the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments of the Constitution which is the "innocent until proven guilty" parts as well as Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution which guarantees the right of habeas corpus which is the right to a fair trial.

When trump said he had "no duty to support the Constitution" apparently he was truly showing us who he was.

To quote Maya Angelou:

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"As long as I can still shoot things and be racist" - Republicans

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"As long as they're shooting the right people"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Apparently the new vocabulary is "vermin".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

This also goes for the people who hear the things Trump is saying and continue to say he should be put in charge.

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[–] Kraivo 26 points 7 months ago

Whole world: let's get gun laws stricter

America: let's bring school shootings to the malls

[–] FlyingSquid 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family, starving because of Trump's economic policies, will be a death sentence. Hooray.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

being suspected of stealing a loaf of bread is a death sentence.

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 7 months ago

And I got into it in another thread with multiple people who still think Hillary would have been just as bad or worse than Trump. Baffling.

[–] ghostdoggtv 7 points 7 months ago

suspected

They don't even have to accuse you of nothing, they'll just shoot you dead from behind while you're trying to grab a box of cheerios from the shelf

[–] PunnyName 6 points 7 months ago

Turn into...?

[–] Furbag 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Due process? What's that?

Republican's stopped reading after the second amendment.

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[–] Nobody 84 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The debates are going to be a trip.

Biden: “We’re investing in infrastructure and creating new jobs.”

Trump: “I’m bringing back concentration camps to own the libs.”

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Under the mantra “DRILL, BABY, DRILL,” he says he would ramp up oil drilling on public lands and offer tax breaks to oil, gas, and coal producers. He would roll back Biden administration efforts to encourage the adoption of electric cars and reverse proposed new pollution limits that would require at least 54% of new vehicles sold in the U.S. to be electric by 2030.

I wonder if Elon is still a fan.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Of course he is. It's all about how loud and controversial the rhetoric is. It doesn't matter what is actually being said, but rather, it's about causing further division of the people. That allows people with the slightest bit of power to get more power without being seen.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The rich person tax breaks he will pass (quietly, while making noise on other stuff)will ensure that it's a net gain for Elon. EV adoption isn't going to stop no matter what Trump does anyways. At most he can slow it down.

[–] Mateoto 32 points 7 months ago

Honestly, you can read and understand a lot of Trump’s plan by examining Mussolini’s strategy for fascist Italy.

[–] SinningStromgald 27 points 7 months ago

I didn't see shooting illegal immigrants as they cross the border but otherwise he's got a nearly full bingo card of rightwing nuttery wishlist items.

[–] Treczoks 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Read this and you know his playbook.

[–] psmgx 4 points 7 months ago

I would have gone with the book "It Can't Happen Here", but that's just the fictional version of your link

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That was a wild read. We all know he is a Bullshitter though so who knows what will happen. America is on a wild ride. The rest of the world watches on as an empire slowly degrades pulling us down with them

[–] Madison420 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He will try, Hitler is his hero and this rhetoric bears striking similarity.

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[–] Travalanche 6 points 7 months ago

But now he's pissed off too.

[–] EdyBolos 20 points 7 months ago

Omg, his ideas sound like straight out of a dystopian reality. Or probably fascism.

[–] TechNerdWizard42 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

95% crazy, but federally funded mental hospitals? That sounds like a gateway project to univseral healthcare. I can't be outraged over that. Unless the "hospital" is where they put you in a padded cell and beat you with twigs until you convert to MAGA.

[–] psmgx 10 points 7 months ago

We had those, one. Reagan and his homies defunded them.

Trump wants em back to lock up people he didn't like who didn't break any laws

[–] nixcamic 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Trump's platform has always been 95% crazy 5% that might actually work. But that 5% doesn't mean much because people who were so much worse have gotten more than 5% right haha. Like even Hitler and Stalin were at least 5%.

[–] KonalaKoala 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, the only way it can be much worse is if Trump's plans also include fediverse server raids, tariffs on fediverse usage, and mass fediverse admin arrests, which would most likely guarantee a lot more outrage here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But with less than a year until Election Day, Trump is dominating the race for the Republican nomination and has already laid out a sweeping set of policy goals should he win a second term.

His presidency, especially the early days, was marked by chaos, infighting and a wave of hastily written executive orders that were quickly overturned by the courts.

As part of that plan, he says he would immediately direct U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to undertake the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.

He would target people who are legally living in the United States but harbor “jihadist sympathies” and revoke the student visas of those who espouse anti-American and antisemitic views.

Trump wants to reimpose his travel ban that originally targeted seven Muslim-majority countries and expand it to “keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the country.” In the wake of the Hamas attack on Israel, he has pledged to put in place “ideological screening” for immigrants.

And again, he says, he will exit the Paris Climate Accords, end wind subsidies and eliminate regulations imposed and proposed by the Biden admiration targeting incandescent lightbulbs, gas stoves, dishwashers and shower heads.


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