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[–] Tygr 112 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Everything has to be video huh? Based on the comments here, this could have been a text post with a paragraph of text.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Alright, so I watched the video so you guys don't have to. Here's a synopsis:

Youtube's ad blocking is going to backfire because:

  • It caused people to stop using crappy ad blockers that didn't even work with youtube to switch to effective ones that do.
  • Drawing attention to "good" browsers and ad blockers, increasing adoption -- including people that weren't using or aware of the existence of them in the first place
  • Increased support of the people making/maintaining ad blockers. Spite driven increase in donations, subscriptions to paid ad blockers, bug reports, etc.
  • Cites the Streisand effect.
  • Analogy of how prohibition led to stronger drugs, stronger booze, etc. If you tell people they can't do something, they're more likely to do it and get better at doing it.
  • Cites how Youtube's attempts to block ad blockers is breaking older embedded apps in smart TVs, chromecast, etc. Older or non-tech people are just more likely to stop using those rather than try to fix them -- and thus cut back on watching youtube.
  • Believes Youtube's actions are an indication the internet's "free with ads" model is dying -- they're getting desperate to maintain profitability.
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s funny to me because I recently downloaded an app for my nvidia shield called smartTube which blocks ads and all that jazz. And I donated $10 to the dev. And posted to the git.

I only did this because of the recent headlines about YouTube policies changing. I don’t mind paying for things. But I will pay someone else out of spite if you charge me too much, pester me, or take away things like that were free.

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[–] camr_on 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sums up a lot of mental outlaw vids

[–] paraphrand 8 points 1 year ago

But he’s so edgy!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

You just described 99.7% of videos on the web.

Pretty much anyone can read about 4x faster than they can speak, and that's before all the fluff that shitty presenters add.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is a website I discovered recently for doing text summaries of YouTube videos.

https://www.summarize.tech

This video was also posted on YouTube, so here you can see a summary:

https://www.summarize.tech/www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tBBQGkmn_0

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Jesus what the hell is going on in those comments over there.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

triple parentheses

unironic use of the word cuck

conspiracy theory about Google being a fake company

Welp.

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[–] hakstc 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I went to odysee once and saw the Babylon Bee advertised front page. Told me all I needed to know about the platform.

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[–] ExcursionInversion 10 points 1 year ago

So many alternatives get flooded with these crazy people

[–] interloper 8 points 1 year ago

What the hell indeed.

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[–] AgentGrimstone 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny cuz I had an ad blocker that worked on Youtube for a while but then stopped working one day. That was 3 years ago and I was too lazy to find a better blocker. Since they started putting that pop up in EVERY video, that prompted me to finally install a working one. Good job, Youtube. Ya played yaself.

[–] QuarterSwede 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could deal with the 2 ads at the beginning of the video and the end but when they added ad interruptions in the middle of 5 minute videos and had ads covering the comments on every video. Yeah, screw off YouTube.

I just sideloaded uYou and it doesn’t even know what ads are so it never loads them. I would never had bothered circumventing the ads if they were reasonable, but they aren’t. They want everyone on premium and obviously have disdain for non-premium users. Have no zero respect for that kind of business.

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[–] STUPIDVIPGUY 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (3 children)

His argument is:

  1. A lot of people were using poor adblockers.
  2. Youtube can block the bad ones but struggles with the good ones.
  3. People switch to the better adblockers (some of which require a subscription)
[–] Imalostmerchant 68 points 1 year ago

Which is why you always finish your antibiotics

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm hearing first time that some of the adblockers require subscription... Like, there's ublock origin, the one and only god out there, why would you like to go somewhere else, even closed source?

Edit: damn autocorrect

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wonder how true that is for the average user

My father disabled ublock because it didn't let him use YouTube. I sent hima tutorial on how to update the list and purge the cache but it was too much work for him

[–] baru 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use Ublock Origin, not Ublock.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Consider using VNC and simply doing the work for him. I find I just do not have the time to coach them through a document and I just do all this stuff for my parents instead. Life's too short to explain where the any key is.

[–] Mrduckrocks 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never updated or purged ublock origin. Never got the popup. Is this only regional thing or Firefox built different.

[–] ItsMeSpez 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I may be wrong, but I think it has something to do with whether or not you had any custom filters enabled when youtube started cracking down on ad blockers. I also haven't seen a popup yet, but I assumed it was because I'm too lazy to go beyond the vanilla UBO install.

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[–] The_Vampire 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. The video's comment section on its native site is... interesting.
  2. I don't trust this guy. It feels like he's just slinging things at the wall that most people could intuit without any research. Yes, sometimes things backfire when you try to stifle them. Sometimes, however, the stifling works (otherwise dictators would have a much harder time ruling). That's just the way things go.
  3. I'ma need some actual data to back up Youtube's anti-adblocker experiment succeeding/failing. People are so quick to jump on the 'it failed' or 'it succeeded' bandwagon but the truth is we simply don't know the result yet, and may not for a long while.
  4. This could've been an email. This guy's delivery is sprawling and lacks conciseness.
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is one mistake in this Video. Ublock origin doesn't accept donations the last time checked.

[–] ours 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right: uBo doesn't accept donations out of integrity but they propose people donate to the list maintainers on which it depends instead.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

"oh no, anyway" moment...

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