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[–] Ghostalmedia 267 points 1 year ago (14 children)

This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's literally "democracy = Democrats" and "a republic = republican" to them, simple as.

The Democrats should rename themselves the "Freedom Liberty" party just to fuck with em. Take back some of their words.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

This is great, call it the Patriot Party or something and talk about how government waste has turned "Citizens On Patrol" into a bunch of lazy, freedom-suppressing, union members.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (35 children)

A republic is a type of democracy. This guy is an idiot. 

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, republic just means that the role of head of state isn't hereditary. Lots of dictatorships are republics, some democracies are as well. The actual political system of the USA is representative democracy (in theory at least).

The fact that these terms are so muddled in the minds of the average American is completely deliberate, because it makes it so much easier for them to subvert US democracy when people have been told that the US is not one.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I just looked it up and did not find a concise definition. According to the German bpb even dictatorships can be republics.

https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/lexika/lexikon-in-einfacher-sprache/250057/republik/

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[–] Brendan 177 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] grue 128 points 1 year ago

This is seditious.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the scariest part about it

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/f90a6d6d-9a07-456f-aec8-d7c897faf9d7.jpeg

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If the American electorate was slightly less stupid, I’d be ecstatic, because he made himself effectively kryptonite to reasonable, intelligent people with that statement.

Unfortunately, the American electorate is, on average, that stupid.

[–] alquicksilver 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's worse is that the average is weighted further toward stupid by gerrymandering. They're right that the game is rigged, it's just not rigged against them.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Yup. That about sums it up. You guys wanna talk about something else or?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They treat the Constitution like they do their bible.

They don’t read it.

If they do read it, they just read the bits they agree with.

If they read the parts that don’t fit their desired narrative, they engage in mental gymnastics to reinterpret what was written to fit their desires.

Edit:

Jefferson's reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion — only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: "Separation of church and state."

Which led to the Establishment Clause…

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...

And also The point of Article 6 wherein no religious test is to be given to hold office.

Better?

[–] AUniqueGeek 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From article VI (3rd paragraph)

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executige and judicial officers, both of the united states and of the several states, shall be bound by oath of affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Over under on this guy being a pedophile?

[–] CADmonkey 58 points 1 year ago (12 children)

He's either a pedo or dogfucker, there was some statement from him about how homosexuality was bad because it makes people want to have sex with their dog.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it that every time a dumbass steps down from being speaker, you guys manage to find an even bigger wanker? It's kinda impressive, honestly.

[–] elbarto777 18 points 1 year ago

Not me bro. I voted for the other guys.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't want to be that guy, but in fairness, ol' boy didn't actually say "biblical republic" (He just wheeled out the old "constitutional Republic" bit).

Doesn't make this any better, but I want to be sure we criticize with facts.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So this is the alternative history they want to write eh?

Clown, it was called the "Enlightenment Age" for a reason, people started breaking the chains of organized religion. Yes they were Christians, but they knew enough to not trust religion as a form of government.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the material world are some of the founding principles, not "death, misery and suffering but maybe get lucky choosing the right god and you'll be rewarded with eternal paradise..."

If they founded the country on the Bible, we'd live in a theocracy with no elections and no opposition parties.

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[–] Thteven 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the good news is that just because this fuckbrain said it doesn't make it true.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

White Taliban gonna Taliban

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 31 points 1 year ago

Y’all Qaeda.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Christians always try to re-history the world in their favor. They are the most dishonest hypocritical fascists.
Then again, they stole most of what their religion allegedly stands for.

[–] JustZ 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's in the First Amendment. It's more important than the Second Amendment. This guy is dangerous.

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[–] Mojojojo1993 40 points 1 year ago

Fucking excellent. I'm so sick of this ride. Life could be soooo good. Yet this shit exists

[–] FlashMobOfOne 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, in essence, he's not wrong.

Nearly every federal legislator is Christian and votes that way. Some states still (symbolically, since they're unenforceable) ban atheists from holding public office too, not that you'd even have a chance of winning public office being openly atheist.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is literally frightening to read that any American politician would think this. I don't see how any moderate R could support this train of thought.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

When he won the spot he said “good to see our democracy working” or something like that. Fucking shameless lunatic

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Separation of church and state is both the first amendment and a clause in article six of the constitution:

First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

article six

no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Thomas Jefferson's use of the words "separation of church and state" was to explain the purpose of the first amendment specifically but the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough to cover not only separation of church and state but separation of mosque/synagogue/ect and state rather than singling out Christianity.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo. Shit for brains. Here's the deal.

Get your god on the ballot. We'll vote for it. If it wins then maybe we'll give a listen to what it's got to say.

Otherwise keep that fucker OUT of our government.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't that effectively what he's doing? A vote for him is a vote for his opinions, including that of God.

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[–] 800XL 33 points 1 year ago

Guillotine.

[–] elrik 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see this nutjob has no idea what he's talking about and cannot fulfill the duties of his oath of office, so he should simply be removed from office, right? Right guys?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

This guy is a fuck

[–] Etterra 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully this guy won't last past this election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

It's a good thing a bunch of 6 year old children weren't murdered! Otherwise Republicans would have to pretend to care about the Constitution again!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck with that Johnson, you absolute fucking moron.

Let's see how far your far-right bullshit gets you.

The American people are sick and tired of your dysfunctional inability to get anything done.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes. He's a former ADF lawyer, proper Christian nutjob. They say things like this. They believe this.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mike Johnson, the banalityest of evil.

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