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Delta is fourth major U.S. airline to find fake jet aircraft engine parts with forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company::With forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Put people in prison for this.

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[–] splonglo 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Man this entire country is corrupt from top to bottom.

[–] scarabic 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look on the bright side here. What we have is a case of parts with some forged documentation. It’s not like planes had bananas instead of spark plugs. We had a supplier forge some of the very rigorous documentation we require for plane parts. And they got caught. Later than we might have liked, but they weren’t found out because some plane crashed.

Honestly, if you accept that there will always be some bad actors out there, this looks a lot like a system that’s working.

[–] SCB 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The UK? What else is corrupt there? Not very knowledgeable about it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The UK Government has stopped court cases investigating corruption, as was the case with a particular Saudi arms deal. There's the never ending corruption around members of the royal family selling influence (and property at inflated prices) to foreign elements, particularly from the Arabian Gulf but also former Soviet states.

There's the fact London has been the money laundering capital of the world for much of my life, this money has been used to influence politicians to turn a blind eye or even advocate for blatantly corrupt and abusive regimes.

Tony Blair, a former head of government, is the best example of such. He has spent (at least) the past decade "advising" criminal regimes around the globe on how to massage their images.

The UK is a pretty murky place to anyone who bothers to pay attention. The rule of law that they have established is for the sake of financial stability, to keep the charade going. It certainly isn't for the benefit of the common man.

[–] SCB 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s the fact London has been the money laundering capital of the world for much of my life

Had absolutely no idea about this. This is fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Suggested reading:

Butler to the World: The Book the Oligarchs Don't Want You to Read - How Britain Helps the World's Worst People Launder Money, Commit Crimes, and Get Away With Anything - Oliver Bullough

Money Land - Oliver Bullough

The Establishment: And How They Get Away With It - Owen Jones

Kleptopia - Tom Burgis

Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens - Nicholas Saxson

Very Bad People: The Inside Story of the Fight Against the World’s Network of Corruption - Patrick Alley

[–] SCB 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I very much appreciate the recommendations but also I literally bust out laughing at that first title. They couldn't make it just a bit longer? Even funnier juxtaposed with the other title by the same author lol

If I didn't Google these and know they existed I would have thought this was just straight up classic British humor.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Petty corruption is pretty decently under control (you can't bribe a police officer if they pull you over), but institutional corruption, politicians amd their buddies, that had a field day with COVID measures and is very much alive and kicking.

See this example of "legal" affairs that stink of corruption. A lot of land was force-bought to make way for a new high-speed line to be laid. Huge overruns later, the line has been chopped short, it will no longer run across certain tracts of land. So a tonne of land that was appropriated from citizens is now going to be sold off. I feel sure the price on those sales will be below market value and it will be sold to their buddies.

Or Nick Clegg, the former deputy Prime Minister who, when he left government, went into a veeery cushy job at Meta.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago

Wild man. I had no idea. As an outside person with casual interest, I don't come across this kind of info much. I appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fairly sure it's just a top.

No one else has the money to be corrupt. Although if any of you want to sponsor me, I'm up for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sometimes the thought occurs to me that the only thing standing between me and being absurdly rich by way of saying reprehensible shit on a YouTube channel, is my inconvenient conscience

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[–] x4740N 25 points 1 year ago

Find out how this happened and put new safeguards in place to prevent it from happening in the future

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Delta Air Lines Inc. has discovered unapproved components in “a small number” of its jet aircraft engines, becoming the latest carrier and fourth major US airline to disclose the use of fake parts.

The suspect components — which Delta declined to identify — were found on an unspecified number of its engines, a company spokesman said Monday.

The problematic pieces, which were certified by AOG, were detected during engine work by an unnamed third party, the spokesman said.

As many as 21 of Delta’s engines could have been affected, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data provided by the airline, which would represent the most among US carriers that have disclosed a number.

“Working with the overhaul provider, we are in the process of replacing those parts and remain in compliance with all FAA guidelines.”

AOG last month was ordered by a London judge to hand over records to help identify additional suspect parts after GE and Safran filed a lawsuit seeking documents relating to “every single sale of products.”


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[–] stealthnerd 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PeachMan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. I used to be a Delta fan, but honestly they've been just as shitty as the others recently; they don't seem any better than American or United. At least they're still better than Spirit, I guess.

I need to remember to cancel my Delta Amex before they charge me another annual fee, it ain't really worth it anymore IMO.

[–] thrawn 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you fly just once a year with a companion it’s worth keeping, just not worth spending on especially after the recent SkyMiles gutting.

Imo Delta’s still decently better than United and American but costs disproportionally more, to the point where it’s probably not worth it anymore. I also have a personal dislike of those two for suing Skiplagged (so sleazy) though so I continue to fly Delta. Plus United beat up that doctor and American has a high baggage loss rate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Plus United beat up that doctor and American has a high baggage loss rate

And Delta pilots intentionally dumped fuel over Los Angeles schools. We have no angels.

[–] thrawn 2 points 1 year ago

Wow that’s just awful, hadn’t heard about that. It’s been years and the FAA investigation appears to either be ongoing or silently killed? Hope they’re still working on it.

Also I wasn't saying Delta is an angel obviously, it’s an airline. They suck too, especially recently. I don’t want to defend them at all and, if I could choose, I’d dissolve the whole company and start anew to make a better airline.

That said, Delta didn’t direct their pilots to do that, it could have been any of them. Same with the doctor beating incident. But United’s vile CEO vehemently defended the beating and tried to paint the victim as deserving, while I haven’t seen any indications that Delta’s corporate leadership tried to back up their idiotic pilots. United feels toxic, which is a shame because I also have status with them from a partnering company. Whereas Delta simply feels like garbage, though it may be because I missed all the bad news about them.

I’m not downplaying it— Flight 89 caused far more damage than the doctor beating or some lost baggage. It’s easily the worst of any airline scandal I can think of. Just feels like it was luck that Delta hired those pilots when they could have been on any plane, and the CEO didn’t go around saying “the schoolchildren were belligerent and the crew followed procedure”.

[–] kamenlady 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this imply, that if this is happening with major airlines, then the rest of airlines would be less befallen of fake engine parts?

I can imagine that major airlines might not be subject to the level of scrutiny when inspected, as do not-so-established airlines.

I would love to think, that the article describes the worst it can get, regarding fake engine parts in plane construction.

[–] atomicorange 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part supplier is the issue, the airlines weren’t aware they were being sold counterfeit parts. Chances are that many airlines, including small ones, purchased parts from this supplier. I’d be more likely to trust an airline that found these counterfeit parts than one who didn’t, it means they have a good maintenance / inspection system.

[–] peopleproblems 13 points 1 year ago

I cant speak for the rest of the world, but if any of the affected 65 engines are in aircraft under FAA jurisdiction, the airlines have been digging. This exact scenario is why the FAA has strict traceability standards.

[–] Duamerthrax 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember, the safest form of travel is to not travel at all.

[–] PlumberOfDeath 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until the plane crashes into your house.

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