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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Once again, I'll believe it when I see it.

I've long since lost any hope of real consequences.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has really brought to light just how broken our legal system is. It's not even remotely just Trump, it's virtually everyone with money and/or power.

Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fun fact: It's not just the legal system. It's kind of fucking everything. Corruption is everywhere. It's progressively gotten worse over the decades while not enough people cared to do anything about it. Now we have campaign finance shenanigans, lobbying tomfoolery, citizens united ruling, regulatory capture all over, the first trillion dollar company and numerous other oligopolies. Here in the good ol' US of A, it's Dollar Über Alles.

[–] Serinus 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not everywhere. You don't have to bribe/tip your doctor or your police.

But yes, in higher levels there's a lot. I'd still say less than half of Congress is explicitly compromised.

We're far from the bottom, but also far from where we should be. This police problem should be first on the list.

[–] sturmblast 3 points 1 year ago

you don't have to tip your doctor because he's already bending you over anyway

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[–] grue 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.

I think the problem there might be that we don't actually have a law prohibiting that yet (probably because until recently, it wasn't possible for one guy to have the power to do that sort of thing in the first place). We apparently need one, but we can't do anything about the Musk incident because of the whole "ex post facto" thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’m assuming that because his network is carrying what the US would consider classified information, he (and his involved employees) have clearances and have signed those great NDAs that will send you to prison for violating them.

I’d be interested to see an infosec audit of the top offices.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Furthermore it seems if you’ve ever held office, been a director, worn a uniform or robe your invincible. Unless you did the right thing. I’m sure you get punished for having integrity.

[–] AngryCommieKender 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can thank a single, unnamed, person in 1874 for that. Congress passed section 1983 of the Federal Code in 1871. They included a 16 word clause that the person entrusted to copy the Congressional Record into the Federal Register illegally omitted. This clause became the focal point of Harlow V Fitzgerald in 1982. Because the 1982 SCOTUS didn't bother checking the Congressional Record, because why would they, the entire argument that allowed Qualified Immunity revolves around the missing clause. Had they had they original text, they wouldn't have ruled the way they did.

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[–] TechyDad 11 points 1 year ago

The consequences haven't been fully enforced yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. He's already been found guilty of fraud and there's already an order from the judge to dissolve Trump Org and all presence in NY - hotels, golf courses, businesses, etc. The rest of the trial is just "how much of an additional fine does Trump need to pay?"

Of course, there will be appeals and it's possible the verdict gets overturned. Still, it's a promising direction.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So like, if I was a defendant in a civil case, and if I tried a fraction of the bullshit he’s pulled in the context of this particular trial alone, I’d be thrown in jail for contempt of court faster than you can say “hamberder”.

I am waiting for the judge to throw the book at him, but I’m honestly not expecting it.

[–] ohlaph 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Perhaps they meant covfefe.

[–] ohlaph 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

~~You can't just say perchance.~~

Fuck it, Lemmy is a fresh start. Let's roll with it.

[–] ohlaph 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you for understanding.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"fold like a stack of cards" 🤔

[–] Its_Always_420 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards.

Checkmate

[–] KnightontheSun 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mack7400 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ColonelSanders 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GladiusB 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] rbhfd 8 points 1 year ago

I.e., collapse in the most satisfying way possible?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." -Zapp Brannigan

[–] RealFknNito 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine having a deck of cards. Now try to fold them. Slow and difficult right?

That's the analogy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stack of cards ^^

Deck of cards ^^

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can a stack of cards get so tall that the bit at the top escapes Earth's gravity?

Or does it just take like... most of a decade to fall?

[–] Toto 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The left needs to stop believing that THIS TIME the MAGA followers will see the fraud. It will never happen. There is no house of flares related to his reputation. There is him (the victim truth teller) and the angry left who break laws to bring him down.

[–] meco03211 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their handlers could tell them the sky is green and grass is blue and the next day there'd be dozens of blossoming new conspiracy theories about "big Crayola" and the leftist elites' woke control over colors and child molestation/adrenal harvesting.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Kid Rock will paint his lawn blue to own the libs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe 1984 was an instruction manual.

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[–] randon31415 33 points 1 year ago

The rich never get convicted.

That is why the civil trial to take away his riches is going first before all his criminal trials.

[–] mrcleanup 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The children's book "the emperor's new clothes" is so unrealistic who would ever buy into that kind of delusional thinking?

Meanwhile all the people that have been suckered by this guy despite all the evidence that he is just a con man...

[–] Burn_The_Right 10 points 1 year ago

That book was banned due to nudity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] theluckyone 21 points 1 year ago

As opposed to the current prosecutor. If the current prosecutor commented publicly in such a manner, it would be highly unprofessional. Rather like Trump publicly bashing the judge presiding over his trial...

[–] Crackhappy 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly, which makes the comments perfectly apropos.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Salon is the liberal version of Brietbart; never trust any analysis that they have.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Eh ... We'll see.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels like what they told Reagon in the first CIA briefing...,"The Soviet Union will fall like a deck of cards, because it is a deck of cards."

[–] TechyDad 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Granted, it did fall. All it took was for the US and USSR to race each other towards bankruptcy and for the USSR to win.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] EtherWhack 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

a TAN SUIT ???

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