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Alternatively, if your current phone doesn't have a headphone jack, do you wish it did?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 123 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Why wouldn't you prefer a headphone jack in your phone? It is yet another option for headphones that worst case you don't use. The only reason it has been removed is because it saves companies a few cents on the cost to build the product.

[โ€“] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

They remove it to push people to use bluetooth, on iOS this means you wont disable it permanently and keep Apples tracking network alive. Not that nasty on Android but I suppose the same reasoning

[โ€“] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I should have added, that for companies that sell Bluetooth headphones it also helps drive sales for those devices, particularly that is why Apple did it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More importantly it removes the expectation to include earbuds with the phone as well as allows them to sell you Bluetooth ones

[โ€“] RGB3x3 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the real reason. The cost savings is negligible. But as soon as Apple got rid of the headphone jack, they introduced the AirPods.

Then Google did it, Samsung did it, and every other phone manufacturer followed suit. They all have their own wireless earbuds.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Credit where it's due, Bluetooth headphones have come a long way. I like the ones I have now. That said, removing the jack and micro SD slots was extremely anti consumer and they should come back.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My issue with BT isn't quality it's the cost and the battery. I do have a very nice pair that I enjoy on occasion but I have another set of wired headphones that I use sometimes 12 hours a day at work. BT headphones would quickly wind up in the garbage under those circumstances since batteries are wear items with limited charge cycles and once they go bad, they render the rest of the device useless.

I also don't like having another device that needs charging or that'll leave me 'stranded' because I wasn't monitoring the charge close enough and it died.

I don't think we should be forced to choose one or the other. Both have advantages and we should get a real choice as consumers. Currently I'm limited to low spec'ed phones if I want 3.5mm or high spec'ed with no 3.5mm (and no SD card and no replaceable battery). It's a shitty choice all around.

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[โ€“] foggy 53 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is my first phone without a headphone jack.

I miss it dearly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I got one like that in 2018. Since then I had 2 phones, and I paid attention to make sure there is a headphone jack.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

nope, actually never used it. i've had and will continue having Bluetooth headphones

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[โ€“] icedterminal 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"VPN user voting is not allowed"

Lol.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hate that I now have to use wireless earbuds that I now have to worry about charging, or that go flat at the most inopertune times....

Having something plugged into the usb-c port all day sounds like a recipe for a broken port.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The headphone jack would be less painful of a loss if phone manufacturers started adding a second USB-C port on top of the device. That way you wouldn't have to choose between charging your phone, listening to your game without lag and in privacy, or carry a dongle to try doing both things at the same time.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah, once I made the switch to Bluetooth 8 years ago or something. I have never gone back.

Actually I did once between Bluetooth headsets and the first time the cords got tangled I was like oh right that's why.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Yes, because fuck having to charge and monitor another battery and the way they are trying to push higher price and disposable device.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Drag your preferred option to the top wtf is this UX...

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[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Yes. It's my way of voting with my wallet. I already have a few nice headphones and I'm not replacing them just because phone manufacturers are cheap and lazy.

Besides, I hate batteries. They always die at the most inconvenient time. And USB-c just for audio is way overkill.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

This poll kind of sucks for data gathering. You ask two different questions but there's only one set of answers. Even the first question alone asks if we use and/or require, which should be separate.

To answer though: I use my headphone adapter whenever I travel but don't have a regular headphone jack. A jack is not absolutely required for me to purchase a phone but the adapter is.

[โ€“] TheDannysaur 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to say but the poll is biased because you asked two questions that are not the same.

I currently have a phone without a jack, so the first question is obviously no. But the second question, would I prefer it, is a yes.

So there's a group of people who would prefer it, but it's not a deal breaker for them in your data, but they answered a different question than the headline.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I exclusively use wired earbuds because I fucking hate bluetooth as a technology

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[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why isn't there an option for "the lack of a headphone jack is a complete deal breaker and I refuse to even consider a phone that doesn't have one?"

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This. After my first Android phone I had only gotten Nexus phones. I had a Nexus 6p when the Pixel was announced, and it wasn't going to have a headphone jack. I tried multiple dongles with my Nexus 6p, and none of them both reliably worked with my headphones and fast charged my phone. My wife ordered a Pixel, I ordered a Note 9.

I've gone Note 9, then a One Plus Nord v10, and now an Asus ZenFone 9. Every time a manufacturer ditched the headphone jack (or made it only available at ludicrous price), I just switched manufacturers. I don't even use a headphone jack that often, but when I need it I want it to be there and just work.

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[โ€“] systemglitch 18 points 1 year ago

I use both. I want both. Bluetooth and headphone jack. Is this too much to ask?

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Yes! No.1 reason: microphone quality! I have to attend many calls every day and no Bluetooth headset (BT v.4 > 5.3, SPS, AAC, LDAC) has even come close to the simple quality of a ~25,-โ‚ฌ wired headset.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Opted not to vote because:

  • biased leading questions
  • strawpoll
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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yes but this voting style is uhhh ... poop

[โ€“] tomi000 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nice bullshit poll making 'Yes' the pre-selected choice and clicking an other option not changing it, even when its highlighted. Dragging choices is absolutely counterintuitive and actively misleading. Lets start a poll if people like murder and wonder about the 50/50 result at the end.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jesus it's just a simple poll with almost zero reach. Nobody is going to sneak into your house and install a headphone jack into your phone while you're sleeping.

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[โ€“] Sterile_Technique 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a fan of BT headphones. It's three things (2 pods and the case that charges them) that you have to juggle and keep charged, vs just one that works whenever the device it's plugged into works. Wired headphones have a nice additional perk of discouraging people from interacting with you, while (at least anecdotally) the BT ones seem to lose that deterrent... and the venn diagram for times I want to use headphones and the times I don't want to deal with other people is just one crisp circle.

I always try to pick out a phone that has a 3.5mm jack, but that's becoming increasingly hard to do.

[โ€“] Au55ie 14 points 1 year ago

Yes! I do still use the headphone jack. Bluetooth is trash and suffers from extreme latency and is not capable of the same quality of a wired connection.

I recently bought some bluetooth earphones (sony wf-c500) after many years of avoiding it. I was under the impression that things had improved but bluetooth is still as bad as I remember them. The audio latency on windows alone is unreal but another kettle of fish.

The real disgrace is that phone manufacturers removed the MicroSD card slot and then tried to justify it with weak excuses that didn't add up. MicroSD/SD cards have also recently become much quicker but nobody was using a MicroSD card as primary storage anyway so it was irrelevant and a weak argument at best. The only reason why phone manufacturers did remove it was to charge you much more for the large storage capacity phones. I would also say the price increase for that given storage space was and is also vastly more expensive than it actually is. In other words it is a cash grab. Its also of no coincidence that many phone manufacturers also now sell their own shitty Bluetooth headphones.

We can also sight the absence of charging cables/cords and wall plugs/power bricks. Not to mention that people these days are more privacy focused and tech savvy and begrudgingly use android or apple phones as they know with each update their privacy is being further eroded away. Whilst also being undermined by manufacturers with such things as planned obsolescence and them deliberately making it difficult if not impossible to repair your own phone.

...and phone manufacturers wonder why nobody wants to buy a phone anymore. Dumbasses! The truth is there are many more number of reasons why phones are garbage these days.

[โ€“] CoffeeJunkie 13 points 1 year ago

The poll/voting process is flawed & I don't like that.

That said, idk, I'm a blue collar working adult & the aux/wired connection isn't a necessity in my daily life. I can often, if not always, blast my music on an Ion loudspeaker. Car has Bluetooth. Home, I've got Bluetooth.

But that's just not the point for me; my phone has an aux port & I rarely use it. Used it to connect headphones on a walk last week. It's nice & I like having the option. Getting rid of it was purely an anti-consumer move, so needless, and obviously they can build it into the phones without detracting from battery or taking away from water resistance. Everything I've heard justifying removing aux is either a lie or an excuse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do prefer to use a headphone jack when my phone is the source of music for my amplified sound system and large room speakers.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I don't actively need a headphone jack on my phone but when I do need one I am annoyed that my phone does not have one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mostly use bluetooth, but the jack of my phone is not sitting there unused. I have wired headphones too, and I frequently use my phone as a microphone (because it is one) by connecting it to my computer by a jack cable.

Also, the next headphone of mine will probably be wired. Always keeping it charged is not really a problem, but the privacy aspect of Bluetooth has started to disturb me.
With a wired connection, you exactly know and control who connects to your devices, and at the same time you don't announce to the world that you are here.

Also, as I understand you can't use USB-C for audio and charging or data transfer at the same time, or even all 3 at the same time. Is that right?
That is critical functionality for me. Audio is not just entertainment, it could be an online meeting or other things too, and at one point I'll have to change my phone, or transfer files from it. However I don't have a USB-C phone so I can't test it, so I would appreciate if someone could confirm if this is actually the case.

[โ€“] KindaLost 12 points 1 year ago

I was gifted a phone without a headphone jack after my last one died a few years back. I miss it all the time, remembering to charge bluetooth headphones and not losing bluetooth buds is tricky for me. So a lot of the time I just dont play music anymore. Very annoying.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually use wireless headphones nowadays, but there are still plenty of instances where I'm happy to have the headphone jack. Random parties where someone needs to play music via the aux cable, going somewhere with only some small wired headphones in my pocket because I dont have space, etc. For me it's still quite important that my next phone has one.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My current phone (Pixel 6) doesn't have a headphone jack, and I hate it because of that. I bought an adapter and it didn't work, turns out most phones with a Qualcomm SoC have a DAC so a passive adapter is fine... But the pixel has a non-qualcomm SoC which doesn't have a DAC connected to the USB-C port so I had to get a dongle with a DAC. They suck, and cost more than the passive dongles, and half of them sound like garbage with terrible QC.

Also dongles are easy to lose or break, since they are fragile.

My next phone has to have a headphone jack.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and removable battery aswell.

Choosing a new phone has been rather easy, since about once every 5 years someone makes one model that loosely fits the criteria.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

No headphone jack, no buy.

[โ€“] small44 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yes, I mostly use wireless earbuds but you never know when you have to use a wired earbuds like if you forget your case and your earbuds are out of charge.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

My current phone does not have a jack and my previous one did. I would prefer to have it since there are times I don't need/want noise cancelling and bluetooth, but I have no choice but to run down my headphone batteries more.

[โ€“] Harpsist 10 points 1 year ago

Yes. Yes yes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. I had jumped to BT long before Apple* first dropped the hole. I hate cords; I hate the tangle and snagging. It's another lever with which to break a connection on the circuit board, and another ingress for water.

I know audio is better over cords, but I don't hear the difference, so the convenience won for me.

  • I just discovered that my phone sometimes autocorrects "Apple" to "asshole." Fun.
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