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My favorite part is how they keep talking about how dangerous China is, then they keep showing tik Tok ads
Fuckin A right, the limits of hypocrisy know no bounds
“We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country,” Ron DeSantis said.
Says the one who is at the forefront of indoctrination in schools.
No, ya see, indoctrination is when we tell kids to respect one another's differences and teach them all about the world. An education is when we teach them "America rules" so they become good little worker drones without complaints. /s
Can we talk about how most of them are arguing against education??
It's active hostility to higher education from those on the right, because once you're college educated, you tend to be more left leaning.
"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.
More than half of those with postgraduate experience (54%) have either consistently liberal political values (31%) or mostly liberal values (23%), based on an analysis of their opinions about the role and performance of government, social issues, the environment and other topics. Fewer than half as many postgrads – roughly 12% of the public in 2015– have either consistently conservative (10%) or mostly conservative (14%) values. About one-in-five (22%) express a mix of liberal and conservative opinions."
"Drill, frack, burn coal and pursue nuclear."
Oy.
I always hate when nuclear is dumped in with fossil fuels.
The fossil fuel industry has been hamstringing nuclear since the 50s. (the Rockefeller Foundation did some "research" on the safe doses of radiation in the 50s, and then lied and said that there was no safe dose, even though we all swim through a safe dose every day of our lives).
Oil money has then paid for anti-nuclear regulation that makes it almost impossible to build a plant on time and on budget, while also being the wrong regulation to actually make nuclear as safe as it can be.
As an advocate for nuclear power, it's maddening to see these fossil fuel tactics work time and time again.
Hell, the fossil fuel industry also helped twist the environmentalist movement against nuclear. The Rockefeller foundation helped found Greenpeace, and kept the money flowing for decades with the requirement that Greenpeace fight against nuclear power. Friends of the Earth was directly founded by a West Coast Oil Baron for the express purpose of being an anti-nuclear alternative to the (at the time) pro-nuclear Sierra Club.
All because these ghouls wanted to make just a little more money from Peaker Plants (which are legally allowed to charge exorbitant fees for "emergency" power production)
The current US grid has more Peaker Plants than ever, all because of the fact that wind and solar are intermittent, and yet have priority on the grid. Base load plants don't handle unplanned changes in power demand well. Peaker Plants become the only option. So either methane or some sort of oil based fuel.
Nuclear is the only thing that has a prayer of stopping climate change. It's the only way we can produce clean energy at the scale we need.
No single thing can stop climate change. Every solution will be required. Nuclear is too expensive and takes too long to build to be a sole solution. There is no "only thing that can stop climate change".
Well the nuclear part is right so at least there's that.
Conservatives push for nuclear, not because they actually want it, but because they are hoping to create a big political shitfight that will take years to resolve. It's a delay tactic, allowing fossil fuels to continue to be profitable for as long as possible.
"I want to see how people conduct themselves" says the voter whose top choices are Donald Trump and Ronald DeSantis.
Holy shit! This is clown shoes. As expected, but seriously wow.
This is clown shoes plus the honking horn and squirting flower...
"After I gave myself to Jesus Christ ..."
Sadly, Nikki Haley looks sane, and that is baffling to me ...
Also, how is this being run like an NFL game??
Same here. Finding myself agreeing with Nikki Haley for a moment there made me realize how far right they’ve gone. I know it’s the republican primary, but… sheesh
Its like Bizarro World.
Also, how is this being run like an NFL game??
Mostly for the advertisements.
"Consensus is the opposite of leadership" eeesh Mike. So if 60% of America agrees, the leaderlike thing to do is argue with them?
It does seem to be a very undemocratic statement, doesn't it? Par for the GOP course.
This is the one, rare instance where I'll agree with Pence to a point.
Democracy can be cruel to the minority, and creating an equitable society built on freedom and justice means that sometimes, you have to listen to 60% of the people demanding something and then say "no." Leaders lead their people to where they should be, living by example and making persuasive arguments. Leaders also compromise and build consensus, and great leaders recognize that sometimes they don't get to have it their way. We should choose leaders we trust to make those judgement calls.
The problem with that is that Pence is not anywhere on the list of people with the qualities or integrity to be trusted to make decisions. Pence is the sort of guy to order pizza for a group and get four white pizzas with olives because he likes olives and sauce is sinful.
"Its not just drugging people up with Zoloft and Seroquel"
What.
The.
Actual.
Fuck.
Suspiciously specific denial is suspicious.
I don’t know what I expected, but somehow the “debate” is worse than that.
Ramaswamy is a used car salesman. I wouldn't put money on him actually believing any particular statement that left his mouth. Absolute grifter.
"We are paying single women not to have a man im the house..."
Jfc.
Yes, please, just pair us all up per government sorting.
Perfect for the Republican Party then.
So, like, a republican?
I especially liked the part where Desantis froze and needed to reboot before giving his closing statement.
"The elephant not in the room"
Oh, ffs.
I’m not watching the debate. Was that someone slamming Christie?
Not watching either, I'm sure there's plenty of Christie slamming, but willing to bet that's a reference to Trump. It's got a bit of a double meaning as he has the majority of the party's support, and the Republican mascot is the elephant.
Fentanyl is ultimately coming from China. Can we stop blaming Mexico?
Christie spitting facts.
Weird.
Well, China is supplying it South of the border.
The big dealers in Portland are all Honduran.
I mean, cut off the source, the distributors have nothing to distribute.
Vivek "drill, frack, burn coal" Ramalamadingdong. I'm having flashbacks to that dipshit Palin and her drill baby drill battle screech.
He's a piece of shit, but calling Ramaswamy "Ramalamadingdong" is pretty gross to me.
You could replace all of them with animatronics controlled by ChatGPT, and no one would know!
That whole top row in the thumbnail is going nowhere.
For various Republican reasons.
I don't see anyone in the debate going anywhere unless Trump is forcibly removed from consideration.