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The order also explicitly limits Trump’s ability to attack witnesses or his co-defendants, including on social media.

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[–] [email protected] 242 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Feels a bit ridiculous.

Even low-balling Trump's supposed wealth, that's like setting bond for the average person at $7.50.

[–] FlyingSquid 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Different rules when you're rich.

[–] GrammatonCleric 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or at least pretending to be rich 😉

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Does it matter? His fans have probably already donated thrice that amount while feeling smug.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

He's pretending to be obscenely rich while he's just quite rich.

[–] derpo 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit dude they might as well have set the bond at $130k to coincide with his Stormy Daniels payment

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's just up it to 2M so we can fund MARTA.

[–] buddhabound 8 points 1 year ago

I love MARTA. I also know it has its problems. As a neighbor from a nearby small city, I don't even have a business stop within 5 miles of my house. I love being able to take MARTA all over place in Atlanta with a day pass.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It really does. As in... we know you're not going to be able to resist threatening jurors and will have to forfeit this bond so we'll give you a nice low bond.

[–] LEDZeppelin 8 points 1 year ago

“They let you do anything when you’re rich”

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So another $200k deducted from his re-election donations then.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Keep in mind, you only have to post 10% to get out, so $20K.

What's $20K to him if he skates?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Isn't the full amount posted by somebody? And if you leave the bondsman can find you and take you to the cops?

Don vs Dog the bounty hunter would be a battle of the bad haircuts

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dog the Bounty Hunter tackling Trump is such an absurdly perfect image. I'll expect to see a New York Times article about it in a month.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Given that we're in the dumbest time line, this is actually a plausible scenario.

[–] xkforce 7 points 1 year ago

Just follow the cheeseburger shortages

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah I’d be curious to see what happens if he skips, because he has Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.

The Secret Service has an obligation to protect him, but they’re also federal officers. Would they protect him from the bounty hunters? Would they rat him out? Would they act as the bounty hunters and drag him back to the courthouse against his will?

It also raises questions about a potential conviction. If he gets convicted, will the Secret Service simply post extra guards specifically for his (isolated) prison cell? They’d probably want to try and outsource it to the prison directly, but then you run into the issue of having a person who still has Top Secret clearance and has proven to be irresponsible with it being guarded by people who don’t have that clearance. The Secret Service would probably need to clear several of their members and post them there as guards, simply to prevent Don from blabbing national secrets to anyone who will listen. Basically, limit his contact to only people who also have clearance.

Regardless, I’d pay good money to get a livestream of the bounty hunters taking Don down.

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[–] SheeEttin 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes, it's usually 10% if you go to a bail bondsman. And yes, you still owe them if you skip out, and they can hunt you down.

I don't think the secret service would let that happen though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You mean the same secret service that deleted subpeonaed evidence to protect themselves and trump?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's "subpoenaed."

It looks just as ridiculous, maybe more.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That's like fucking nothing to the mega rich like Trump.

The fact that we have a two-tiered justice system couldn't be more obvious than a rich white politician getting slapped on the wrist despite leading an insurrection against American democracy while poor black men are killed in the street by militant cops for literally no reason. Gross on so many levels.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's only if you get a bondsman to pay the rest of it. Knowing trump, anyone in their right mind wouldn't put 180k of their own money down thinkimg the fat idiot won't run his mouth and violate the terms of his bond.

But then again, if they were in their right minds, they wouldn't support him.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like Presidents who don't have a bail bondsman

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I want to see Dog the Bounty Hunter chasing him down.

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[–] FuglyDuck 8 points 1 year ago

But I like this ex-president having one :)

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[–] eran_morad 42 points 1 year ago

Traitor cunt.

[–] Tedesche 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So, what happens if he violates the gag order? Can they lock him up or is just a pithy fine?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He hasn't got in any trouble yet for violating gag orders. I'm not hopeful about justice being served this time around.

[–] Tedesche 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like the fact that it's an actual bond condition this time might motivate the judge to actually enforce it, but I understand your pessimism.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If he violates the bond terms, they can throw him right into jail.

[–] Tedesche 11 points 1 year ago

Great. Fingers crossed that he's stupid/impulsive enough to do it and the judge actually has the chutzpa to put him in the clink.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The judge has every right to revoke bail and lock him up if he breaks those terms. I'm not betting any money on that actually happening, but if the law were applied equally he'd be denied bail and in prison until trial already.

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[–] Treczoks 17 points 1 year ago

I wonder how long it will take Trump to break parole. It is not a question of if, just a question of when. And then the reaction of the court will most likely show the inequality of the American justice system. Some are handled more equal than others.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

There's not enough zeros there.

[–] drdabbles 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The question I have is what if he violates any of the terms? It's not like they're going to throw him in jail with some secret service people guarding him. So it feels more like a show than anything with real force behind it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he gets arrested later when he surrenders, beside a mugshot, do they also weigh Trump? Measure his height?

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