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The golden rule appears in many religions in different ways, but can be summed up as "treat others how you want to be treated". However, I've seen it misused in some extreme ways in the past. What's the most out-of-left-field way you've seen it used?

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[–] Jeffool 18 points 1 day ago

I don't know about "out of left field", but I've seen many people use it to justify being retaliatory. "They treated me this way and did a horrible thing, so this is the way they want to be treated! I'm going to do it right back to them!" That's literally against what the rule says. That's just you giving them permission to continue.

In fact, I think that's depressingly common.

[–] waz 1 points 22 hours ago

Not exactly what you asked, but your question reminded me of this post I came across a while ago:

https://lemmy.world/post/14363267

[–] FelixCress 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What's the most corrupt/misguided/peculiar way you've seen the golden rule used?

golden rule (...) can be summed up as "treat others how you want to be treated"

That must have been last Friday night when I saw a masochist severely beating a random guy on a street.

[–] Zombiepirate 4 points 1 day ago

It's frequently used as an excuse to berate "sinners," with the excuse that they would want someone to confront them about their sins and lead them to Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm going to use Kant's categorical imperative, because I think that it's written a little more-rigorously than most forms of the Golden Rule, so it's easier to reason about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative

Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

— Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals

The problem here is that I'm pretty sure that you can always rewrite a rule that doesn't conform to the categorical imperative to a form such that it does.

For example, take gay marriage. Some people who are upset about it have argued that not allowing gay marriage does treat everyone in the same way: anyone, homosexual or not, can marry someone of the other sex.

You could have a law "Someone who wants to do so can marry an adult that they are attracted to. This law does not apply to homosexuals." That won't pass the categorical imperative; it doesn't apply to homosexuals. You can rewrite that to be "Anyone may marry someone of the other sex", and now it does, though the effect is the same.

Maybe it's not legal to prevent blacks from voting, but for a while, under Jim Crow laws, literacy tests were used -- exploiting the fact that literacy among blacks was lower -- to partially disenfranchise blacks in the US.

That is, I get the idea behind the Golden Rule. But I have a hard time seeing how you can come up with some kind of a legalistic, mechanical test that can't be gamed. I can always make the conditions for some rule that contains no group-specific restrictions sufficiently restrictive in other ways that in effect, they apply only to that group.

[–] fubo 4 points 1 day ago

exploiting the fact that literacy among blacks was lower

That wasn't the exploit. The exploit was twofold:

  1. Whites didn't have to pass the literacy tests. For instance, in some states any man who could show that his grandfather had voted, was assumed to have the right to vote, without having to take a literacy test. This is the origin of the terms grandfather clause and to be grandfathered in.
  2. The literacy tests were rigged with trick questions, geometry puzzles, and outright nonsense questions; so they did not effectively test literacy anyway!
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

some political leaders follow the "gold-and-rule" so there's that.

on a more local level, neurotic SOs will return social embarassments with a bigger social + maybe internet drama. 🍿