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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at Donald Trump’s accusation that Ukraine started its war with Russia, saying that Trump is trapped in a “disinformation bubble” and adding that his country was not for sale.

He rejected Trump’s claim that Kyiv could have avoided the war and defended U.S. aid.

Referring to U.S. support—$67 billion in weapons and $31.5 billion in budgetary aid—Zelenskyy dismissed demands for $500 billion in minerals as “not a serious conversation.”

Moscow welcomed Trump’s remarks, further fueling concerns about his foreign policy approach.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

A more plausible alternative interpretation is that Trump is a source of the disinformation bubble and not its victim.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Zelensky has been very careful not to burn the Trump bridge prematurely, but Trump's Russia misinformation comments seem to have turned the tide.

Trump was just baiting and waiting, and this response unfortunately likely took the bait (though who can blame him, it's all true). So I think this is the turning point and will give Trump an excuse to lash out by revoking aid, and jointly propose a "peace" treaty with Russia that gives Russia substantial parts of Ukraine.

[–] hypna 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this only makes a few weeks difference to the withdrawal of US military support. The deal Trump and Russia are putting together should not be thought of as an attempt to end the war, but the creation of a pretense for the withdrawal of support. The terms that will be offered to Ukraine will be completely, and intentionally, unacceptable to Ukraine and Europe. Ukraine will refuse and the US will name it as the justification for walking away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Don't rule out the possibility of Trump deploying US troops to attack Ukraine and point their weapons at our European allies. He is that much of a Russian puppet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The EU just came up with $730 billion in war funding. Sidelining them (including Ukraine) was a huge fucking mistake by the fascists and I'm here for it.

[–] FenrirIII 9 points 1 day ago

Shouldn't Congress have some say in this? Has anyone queried Trump's taint to ask them?

[–] FabledAepitaph 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe most people who voted for Trump were in a Russian disinformation bubble.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Never forget these maga heads with t-shirts that said: i'd rather be russian than a democrat. They don't give a shit, they want their team to win. It's a sport to them. If you have to inject 15 year olds with testosterone maybe win a college football game, hell yeah, better than losing

[–] disguy_ovahea 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Saying Trump is trapped in the disinformation bubble is like saying a bee got trapped in the hive.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 11 points 2 days ago

Trump is the queen bee, but Putin is the beekeeper.

[–] credo 2 points 2 days ago

This bee is trapped in different hive, trying to figure out their production secrets.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“I don’t like Trump’s flirting with Putin," said 49-year-old Fedir Logvynenko. "I don’t quite understand whether it’s from great intelligence or from complete incompetence."

Hate to break it to you, but it's pretty obviously the latter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Is that translated? Or, rather, does Fedir speak English?

I got a funny feeling that the translators in global media sound a hell of a lot more competent than Trump. And there's a hell of a lot gained in translation.

[–] Grimy 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

He didn't get trapped or tricked. He knows what he is doing, he is a traitor that is caving to blackmail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

It is treason. Nobody's making him do it, he's doing what he wants to do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is he vulnerable to any possible blackmail at this point? I think it's safe to assume he is just really fond of Putin and his ruling style.

[–] Cort 2 points 1 day ago

I mean It kinda depends on what Putin has on him. If it's a tape of him molesting Ivanka or Tiffany, or even one of his sons, he'd probably want to keep that hidden forever, even after he attains dictator for life status.

It's probably one of the few things that could actually take him down.

[–] baronvonj 1 points 2 days ago

He didn’t getter trapped or tricked. He knows what he is doing

It seems you're dispelling some notion ... 🤔 What does Secretary Rubio think about it?

[–] blattrules 35 points 2 days ago

Hey, he’s also trapped in American disinformation and misinformation bubbles too. Also, he’s extremely stupid so he’ll never realize he’s wrong and too narcissistic to ever admit he’s wrong, so we’re all screwed.

[–] sunbrrnslapper 28 points 2 days ago

That's a weird way to pronounce foreign agent.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Another one of trumps great business deals - failed.

[–] maplebar 6 points 1 day ago

Shit I coulda told ya that, man.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

imo, i feel it is intentional and made to be as neutral as possible so the man baby won't have more reasons to give a fit.

i wish europe can set their defenses up from this experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

He's not in a bubble, he is the bubble

[–] danc4498 11 points 2 days ago

Always has been

[–] JiveTurkey 6 points 2 days ago

He's trapped in a 'fat dumb piece of old shit criminal' bubble also.

[–] gedaliyah 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russian disinformation bubble

Like lemmy.ml?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

More like the GOP and most major US news outlets at this point