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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago

God I hate living in Utah.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

I'm guessing that soon it might even be obligatory to wear certain arm bands, maybe of the yellow kind? Adorned with a pretty star, perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

This is some BS man. He's saying you can fly the Nazi flag because it's "historic". Well, hell, isn't the gay pride flag historic? Good luck getting a definition out of these fucks. If he could write the law he really wanted to write it would say "keep off any flags I don't agree with".

[–] LordCrom 5 points 7 hours ago

Technically, if something happened yesterday, it is also historic.

More along the lines of not wanting kids to know or being exposed to lgbtq culture, but he is fine with kids knowing about and being exposed to Nazi culture

[–] Madison420 1 points 7 hours ago

It's been a unit battle flag more than once iirc.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I firmly believe this is because we've lost almost all of our world war two veterans. These shitlords kept it under wraps all these years because deep down, they knew pap paw would 100% get up out of his wheelchair to kill one last Nazi.

[–] Wogi 29 points 12 hours ago

I think we know the solution then.

Be like pap paw

[–] WrenFeathers 12 points 10 hours ago

I’d imagine the armbands will be next.

[–] [email protected] 204 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they're pushing this bill.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I dunno, man, I didn't understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.

[–] big_slap 42 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

if this were to actually happen, I'm positive some people still wouldn't get it

[–] garbagebagel 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

They'd just do what they've been trained to do since 2016. "Fake news! Fake news!"

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They're also admitting that they don't teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

As a high schooler in Utah, this is true. There's essentially zero mention of the community even existing, except for certain classes where it inevitably comes up (like current issues), and even then only certain teachers will approach those topics, and it's definitely not part of their curriculum.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit 17 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.

But oohhhh, they'll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 1 points 7 hours ago

To be fair, the LaserActive was a pretty cool system.

[–] ivanafterall 10 points 14 hours ago

And by Pioneer History, they mean Mormon-church approved Mormon history.

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[–] Hayduke 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a confederate flag... "

I mean, hey, who doesn't for just such an occasion?

[–] glimse 8 points 15 hours ago

It's so funny when they call themselves out. Are you saying those two flags have something in common, Trever?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago

If you read both the linked story and its update you will see a good example of how the press is supposed to interact with power. In sharp relief to the cringing fawning appeasement we see the mainstream press engaging in with this criminally insane presidential administration.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, ok. So not even pretending to hide it anymore. I fucking hate this country.

[–] Sterile_Technique 17 points 15 hours ago

Why would they hide it? The more they flaunt, the more their base is emboldened. Turns out people fucking love evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

.... And so there were swastika flags too, here is one! let me wave it around so that you can imagine how it was to live in nazi Germany! Now when these flags were flying it would be customary to make an official greeting to the one true savior, der Fuhrer ~~musk~~ Hitler, here, let me show you how

I'm fucking bracing myself for WWIII, these fuckers will start it

[–] [email protected] 59 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do they also salute the flag with a musk salute?

[–] foggy 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think calling it a Musk Salute might actually be a great idea if the media is so unwilling to call it a Nazi Seig Heil.

Call it a Musk Salute to the Nazi flag.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago

It also makes a lot of sense because in German the salute is called “Hitlergruß” (which literally translates to Hitler salute), because the accompanying words were mostly “Heil Hitler” and not “Sieg Heil” (which also was used, just a but less common), so you were saluting Hitler. So when Musk does it is in fact a “Sieg Heil”, but when somebody else salutes the American flag it is a Musk salute because you are saluting Musk, the Führer of the USA

[–] ivanafterall 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

You know how people say the fact that we never excised confederates/slavery from amongst us has led to modern issues? Well, the same holds true of Mormons. Most Americans have no idea the level of money, clout, and insane shit based in Utah. For example, I bet you didn't know the Mormon church owns approximately 1 in every ~550 acres of privately-held land in the United States. Warning: the Mormon bullshit rabbit hole is deeper than you can imagine and may cause you to start writing a years-long book project, in my experience. You've been warned!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 6 points 10 hours ago

Mormonism is America's future. It's the prosperity gospel attached to a powerful lobbying contingent that exists to perpetuate MLM schemes.

If you think things are bad now, wait until Mormons are fully in control of California.

[–] NoSpotOfGround 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

That's a strange veer towards a completely unrelated topic... But anyway, considering that roughly 1 in 100 people are Mormon in the US, it's not that surprising that 1 in 550 of the land also is. It's surprising they're trailing so far behind the average actually.

EDIT: oh wait, you mean the church owns it. Yeah, ok, that is very weird. But Mormonism is a very weird thing by definition...

[–] ivanafterall 2 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, that's church-owned. But does raise the interesting point of prominent Mormon billionaires/CEOs. And investment firms. And investments. And their history with the federal government/Republicans. And...

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago

The only reason to have a nazi flag in a school curriculum, is to learn how to tear it down and rip it in two.

https://infosec.pub/post/22663267

[–] Buffalox 23 points 17 hours ago

That's because love and compassion for others is obviously evil.
While hatred and oppression of minorities is good and righteous.

But of course you have to be an idiot to understand that, so you probably don't.

[–] not_that_guy05 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Racism, bigotry, and polygamy.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's because Republicans are NOT Nazis!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

I grew up in deep mormon territory in Utah. I don't disagree with the comments on religious extremism and bad politics, but remember the people this bill will affect are kids. The LDS church is losing youth for a variety of reasons, their policies toward LGBTQ being a big one. The nazi flag is rage bait meant to distract from the real harm of this bill.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Headline is kind of clickbait

The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

The law is still dumb for wanting to ban the pride flag.

[–] Placebonickname 26 points 17 hours ago

I would just show the kids a picture of the flag in the book and if they don’t understand why some Americans are objecting to the flying of a Nazi flag. Maybe they should read the damn book. 

[–] dantheclamman 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I had a teacher put a Confederate flag in our classroom 'for history'. She also spent the entire weeks-long Civil War module drilling into our young minds that the war was about States' rights, not slavery.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How would a pride flag not be a part of history unless you are openly admitting to altering history

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You do make a good point.

Although the idea that the 80s is being taught in history classes makes me feel old.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 3 points 12 hours ago

Greenday plays on the classic rock station, the 80s is practically ancient history, haha /s and now crying

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