God I hate living in Utah.
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And that’s basically it!
I'm guessing that soon it might even be obligatory to wear certain arm bands, maybe of the yellow kind? Adorned with a pretty star, perhaps?
This is some BS man. He's saying you can fly the Nazi flag because it's "historic". Well, hell, isn't the gay pride flag historic? Good luck getting a definition out of these fucks. If he could write the law he really wanted to write it would say "keep off any flags I don't agree with".
Technically, if something happened yesterday, it is also historic.
More along the lines of not wanting kids to know or being exposed to lgbtq culture, but he is fine with kids knowing about and being exposed to Nazi culture
It's been a unit battle flag more than once iirc.
I firmly believe this is because we've lost almost all of our world war two veterans. These shitlords kept it under wraps all these years because deep down, they knew pap paw would 100% get up out of his wheelchair to kill one last Nazi.
I think we know the solution then.
Be like pap paw
I’d imagine the armbands will be next.
“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they're pushing this bill.
I dunno, man, I didn't understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.
if this were to actually happen, I'm positive some people still wouldn't get it
They'd just do what they've been trained to do since 2016. "Fake news! Fake news!"
They're also admitting that they don't teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.
As a high schooler in Utah, this is true. There's essentially zero mention of the community even existing, except for certain classes where it inevitably comes up (like current issues), and even then only certain teachers will approach those topics, and it's definitely not part of their curriculum.
I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.
But oohhhh, they'll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.
To be fair, the LaserActive was a pretty cool system.
And by Pioneer History, they mean Mormon-church approved Mormon history.
"You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a confederate flag... "
I mean, hey, who doesn't for just such an occasion?
It's so funny when they call themselves out. Are you saying those two flags have something in common, Trever?
If you read both the linked story and its update you will see a good example of how the press is supposed to interact with power. In sharp relief to the cringing fawning appeasement we see the mainstream press engaging in with this criminally insane presidential administration.
Yeah, ok. So not even pretending to hide it anymore. I fucking hate this country.
Why would they hide it? The more they flaunt, the more their base is emboldened. Turns out people fucking love evil.
.... And so there were swastika flags too, here is one! let me wave it around so that you can imagine how it was to live in nazi Germany! Now when these flags were flying it would be customary to make an official greeting to the one true savior, der Fuhrer ~~musk~~ Hitler, here, let me show you how
I'm fucking bracing myself for WWIII, these fuckers will start it
Do they also salute the flag with a musk salute?
I think calling it a Musk Salute might actually be a great idea if the media is so unwilling to call it a Nazi Seig Heil.
Call it a Musk Salute to the Nazi flag.
It also makes a lot of sense because in German the salute is called “Hitlergruß” (which literally translates to Hitler salute), because the accompanying words were mostly “Heil Hitler” and not “Sieg Heil” (which also was used, just a but less common), so you were saluting Hitler. So when Musk does it is in fact a “Sieg Heil”, but when somebody else salutes the American flag it is a Musk salute because you are saluting Musk, the Führer of the USA
You know how people say the fact that we never excised confederates/slavery from amongst us has led to modern issues? Well, the same holds true of Mormons. Most Americans have no idea the level of money, clout, and insane shit based in Utah. For example, I bet you didn't know the Mormon church owns approximately 1 in every ~550 acres of privately-held land in the United States. Warning: the Mormon bullshit rabbit hole is deeper than you can imagine and may cause you to start writing a years-long book project, in my experience. You've been warned!
Mormonism is America's future. It's the prosperity gospel attached to a powerful lobbying contingent that exists to perpetuate MLM schemes.
If you think things are bad now, wait until Mormons are fully in control of California.
That's a strange veer towards a completely unrelated topic... But anyway, considering that roughly 1 in 100 people are Mormon in the US, it's not that surprising that 1 in 550 of the land also is. It's surprising they're trailing so far behind the average actually.
EDIT: oh wait, you mean the church owns it. Yeah, ok, that is very weird. But Mormonism is a very weird thing by definition...
Yeah, that's church-owned. But does raise the interesting point of prominent Mormon billionaires/CEOs. And investment firms. And investments. And their history with the federal government/Republicans. And...
The only reason to have a nazi flag in a school curriculum, is to learn how to tear it down and rip it in two.
That's because love and compassion for others is obviously evil.
While hatred and oppression of minorities is good and righteous.
But of course you have to be an idiot to understand that, so you probably don't.
I grew up in deep mormon territory in Utah. I don't disagree with the comments on religious extremism and bad politics, but remember the people this bill will affect are kids. The LDS church is losing youth for a variety of reasons, their policies toward LGBTQ being a big one. The nazi flag is rage bait meant to distract from the real harm of this bill.
Huh.
Headline is kind of clickbait
The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”
“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
The law is still dumb for wanting to ban the pride flag.
I would just show the kids a picture of the flag in the book and if they don’t understand why some Americans are objecting to the flying of a Nazi flag. Maybe they should read the damn book. 
I had a teacher put a Confederate flag in our classroom 'for history'. She also spent the entire weeks-long Civil War module drilling into our young minds that the war was about States' rights, not slavery.
How would a pride flag not be a part of history unless you are openly admitting to altering history
You do make a good point.
Although the idea that the 80s is being taught in history classes makes me feel old.
Greenday plays on the classic rock station, the 80s is practically ancient history, haha /s and now crying