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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

There's actually a whole class of these words. They're called heterological words.

Their opposite, autological (or homological) words are words that do describe themselves. "Autological" is an autological word because it describes itself.

Here's a fun question, though: is "heterological" a heterological word? If you say yes, then that means it does not describe itself and therefore it is not heterological. If you say no, then it does describe itself therefore it is heterological. Bit of a head scratcher.

This is the Grelling-Nelson paradox.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

My favorite homological word:

Sesquipedalian.

An unnecessarily long word, or a person who uses unnecessarily long words.

Sesquipedalian is a sesquipedalian word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Oooh, that's a good one! Its use also makes its user described by itself. Neat!

[–] pyre 6 points 6 days ago

the new administration has banned the use of homological words so be careful.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why is autological an autological word?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because it refers to itself, it's like the trivial case

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How does it refer to itself?

It would need to already have been referring to itself to refer to itself

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I think you're right, it made sense earlier but not anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I think you're right. There's a bit of an infinite regress problem, isn't there?

[–] jaybone 3 points 6 days ago

You’re the substitute teacher who wouldn’t let us play Heads Up Seven Up.

[–] Quicky 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I used to be really interested in paradoxes, but I decided in my old age that they’re all just bloody annoying and pointless. 99% of paradoxes are just linguistics. All these philosophers who spent their lives debating them are infuriating bastards. “Oh you’ve come up with another unsolvable word puzzle have you? Well that’s language for you - an abstraction developed by the fallible. Congratulations mate, great use of everyone’s time.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OK, Grandpa, back to bed. j/k j/k :)

We have multiple industries (movie/tv/gaming/sports) whose main focus is "wasting" time. Finding some enjoyment in linguistics and logic certainly isn't any more of a waste.

[–] Quicky 2 points 5 days ago

Haha I'm just being dismissive, but greater minds than mine have made the same point.  

I read something a while back about Ludwig Wittgenstein (in a YouTube comment of all places). He basically said "It turns out that Philosophy, my entire life's work, is just a language game and, in the end just like a game, it can be fun and challenging, but ultimately meaningless." Everyone disagreed then immediately went back to playing their own games, trying to prove him wrong by proving him right.

[–] ewigkaiwelo 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't there a mistake in your first statement about the word heterological? If I say yes the word heterological is heterological it means that it doesn't fall into the class of words that it describes and so it is heterological, because as you've defined heterological words do not describe themselves

Here's a fun question, though: is "heterological" a heterological word? If you say yes, then that means it does not describe itself and therefore it is not heterological.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You're correct! I had an extra not in there. Good catch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

That's how you know it's a real head scratcher

[–] ewigkaiwelo 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was actually referring to the other "not" that was at the end, but it only shows why it is paradoxical and how confusing nature of predication is in languages, as in this question appears to be a case of Russell's paradox of sets

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Just a good reason not to dabble in paradoxes before you've had some coffee. lol

[–] aeronmelon 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

What sadist put an S in lisp?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same person who named the fear of long words Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia

[–] Tagger 10 points 6 days ago

And who spelt dyslexia like that

[–] toynbee 3 points 6 days ago

I think I first saw this question on coolsig.com in the late nineties.

Also, I just discovered that site still exists. Fun!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

This seems to apply to a number of speech impediments, as "rhotacism" is the term for people with difficulty saying R sounds and apparently "stutter" is a particularly difficult word for people with stutters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Wait, I thought it's a th?

[–] levzzz 1 points 6 days ago

List Processing, ya know?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ReginaPhalange 3 points 6 days ago

Was it delicious?

[–] Pregnenolone 9 points 6 days ago

The hyphen has long been killed by the Internet. It suffered a worse fate than “literally”; it faded into nothingness without even so much as a “where is it?”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

!hyphenated.

Edit: lol my intention isn't to link a community but to replicate the "Not" statement like in coding.

[–] Whelks_chance 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Important hyphenated.

CSS is a strange language too

[–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 6 days ago

That's one of the syntax usages that irritates me the most in any language.

[–] lemmus 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unhyphenated. Also, nonhyphenated is correct in multiple style manuals.

[–] pyre 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

hyphenated words are on their way out. not much use for the hyphen in most cases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's more an in-between-state what words go through and when they are done, new ones follow